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I agree with the sentiment but also violent speech should not be allowed. If a state is to exist which I disagree with in itself it does have a role to keep peace and in this keeping of peace violent speech should not be allowed. Now if someone is just saying bad things I do not think they should be censored no matter how bad but if they are inciting violence like David Duke it is a different story. How can you argue people should be allowed to promote race, religion, and ethnicity based violence how do you see that as okay to promote? People like David Duke have incited the rise in anti semitism and anti semitic hate crimes and yet you believe even with this said and even though they actively promote violence they should be allowed to speak?
David Duke promotes violence and race based murder but yet saying he should not be allowed to do that is equivalent to censoring all speech?
"Imminent lawless action" is a standard currently used that was established by the United States Supreme Court in Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969), for defining the limits of freedom of speech.", "Under the imminent lawless action test, speech is not protected by the First Amendment if the speaker intends to incite a violation of the law that is both imminent and likely.", "The Court held that the government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless that speech is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action"."
With all these provided quotes we can see through a legal sense free speech is limited and if it provides imminent danger it can be "censored". Not only from a legals sense but for years it has been widely accepted that speech promoting violence is "immoral".
If it is just plain racist or something the government should not censor it although private companies may do as they wish, however if it incites violence it is a new conversation.
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are you incapable of understanding my comment? If the person is calling for someone's harm or death then law enforcement can step in only if it is needed, don't go moving the goal posts here. You wish to censor speech you do not like, you do not support freedom of speech, you are for it or not, there is no but.
Goebbels was in favour of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If youre really in favour of free speech, then youre in favour of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, youre not in favour of free speech.
― Noam Chomsky
As you've already pointed out for determining what is incitement to violence, we have the "Brandenburg test", so authoritarians like you can't throw people in the gulag when they offend you.
What difference does that make, I will continue to disagree with these laws, because they violate your human rights, rights are universal, everyone gets them
This might help a little bit
https://youtu.be/TP2S1-A_FXM?t=805
https://youtu.be/TP2S1-A_FXM?t=1961
Side note, stop spamming, edit your posts if you have more to add to them
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Oh okay then we agree I only wish to censor speech if it is threatening. I maintain that I never called for plain and simple censorship I have always used David Duke as my example as David Duke promotes violence. This conversation stems from the late Rush Limbaugh who although I celebrate his death and that can be a different conversation I did not wish censorship upon him as I never found him to directly incite violence. Now he may have done it indirectly but many people indirectly incite violence.
I may wish death or harm upon somebody but that does not mean I wish GOVERNMENT censorship upon them. I don't support an existence of a government much less a censoring one. Now with private companies it is different as while I do not support them censoring people I also understand private companies have the right to do what they wish with the platform they control and I am a full supporter of private property.
As far as spamming I put everything in one post and that was just me being dumb I have no "excuse" for it.
On a deeper side not I reject the notion any form of universal rights exist and I am happy to have that discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb_7IGK3Khg
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That is bad language, yes it is but it doesn't incite any immediate danger thus it is protected by the first amendment
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Good luck friend. Hopefully our police can find these things and prosecute them!
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With that if Ive made a mistake change it please and let me know. Im trying to be perfect here lol
Announcement:
Along with the formal dissolution of the Non-Aligned Movement, I am announcing the formation of a new party, Solidarity.
Solidarity stands as a moderate alliance of nations to work to reach a middle ground, for a strong, stable, free and democratic Union, to oppose political extremism and to work together in solidarity to build a better Union!
I encourage all nations who want to see a stable Union to join Solidarity in their masses to oppose extremism, uphold democracy and rule of law, and to protect the freedoms of the nations in our great Union of Allied States to join in their masses!
Thank you,
- Leria
Party Leader of Solidarity
Who we are:
The Solidarity Party of the Union of Allied States is a party formed in opposition to extremism, a moderate alliance of nations from the centre-left to the centre-right of the spectrum, Solidarity is defined as a movement of shared interest and a common goal, and the common goal of solidarity is to find a moderate, centre ground, to uphold democracy, the rule of law, and to prevent political extremism from taking root in the Union's society.
The cornflower stands for hope and reliability and Solidarity stands for a stable Union, a stronger Union and a democratic Union, and our parties goal is to prevent threats to our democracy gaining power, standing as the Union's bulwark against communism and fascism. We aim to govern with strength and fairness, which is what the region needs.
Our 5 promises:
1. To be a strong opposition to any party or nation threatening our democracy and stability, to keep the Union out of the hands of the tyrannical and political extremists.
2. Ensure the region's laws are fluent, easy to read, revised regularly and are not contradictory with one and other.
3. To oppose any bill or amendment that is unconstitutional, to protect the Union's constitution and laws.
4. To ensure the government regulates political parties, off-site chats, and electoral proceedings with fairness and strength
5. To ensure that the freedoms of all nations, whether it be freedom of speech or a right to equality, shall be protected by the government.
Our Membership:
To become a party member please contact the Party Leader, Leria, you must be a World Assembly member and have endorsed the region's Prime Minister to be accepted into the party's membership.
Feel free to visit our Discord!
Party Leader: Leria Party Members:
Party Chairman:
Cappedore
New shizal
Leria
Nimbys
North americas1
Ensbridge
United regions of israel
Lmao I send you a telegram when you were PM asking for your opinion of a "Solidarity Party" and wow look at that, guess you liked it.
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About the Solidarity Party
The Solidarity Party aims to unite both sides of political ideology by finding a common ground. We seek common sense reform that will serve for the betterment of the union and all of its citizens. Believing that both far left and far right policy corrupt with time, we seek a center-left/center-right mixed ideology, and encourage nations to see each political issue individually.
Why you should choose the Solidarity Party: We seek to unite many nations with a broad spectrum of political beliefs. We seek common ground, common good, common sense legislation. We encourage you to vote however you please, and will not limit you to vote how the party leadership instructs. We encourage free thinking, debate, and openness to criticism. You will not be punished for questioning or criticizing the party leadership. We demand transparency and accountability in all actions by all persons in official positions.
Senatorial Selection
Senators will be selected by a vote within the party. Once there is more than one candidate for senator, a party wide vote will be held, with each party member having one vote.
The candidate who receives the most votes will be the next senator.A seated Senator can be unseated by a vote within the party. If any party member calls for the unseating of a Senator a party wide vote will be held to decide.
If the vote succeeds the Senator will be unseated and a new senatorial vote will be held. If the vote fails the Senator will be protected from another unseating vote for 30 days.
The Founder
The party founder is to ensure the well being of the party. They are to abstain from all party votes, unless there is a tie where they will then act as the tie breaker. They will hold no Senatorial powers in the UAS, and are to remain fairly neutral within the party.
Looking to join? Send a telegram to American Thanelaw.
Oh I apologies, the party was originally going to be called the "Centre" or "Moderate" party, as Cappedore can vouch for me on, but I was researching centrist parties in Europe such as the "European Solidarity" party in Ukraine and I liked the name, I'll change the name as soon as possible if you wish, my telegrams only go back to around 22 days ago, mainly delegate telegrams, but I believe you sent me the telegram a long while before that and the name wasn't even in my mind, and I believe the party was under a different name before that, I don't mean to infringe on that.
Here's the proof on how far back my telegrams go :)
Also, for extra measure may I show the original designs and conversations with cappedore on the name of the party :) apologies for the RMB spam.
DECREE LAW #19
DECLARTION OF MARITAL LAW
Notice is hereby given by the undersigned that effective immediately, the Union of Allied States is under Martial Law.
Given my hand this 22 February 2021, 3:50 PM EST
HARMAN H. TEASEDALE
Chairman of the Union of Allied States
South Waterford
DECREE LAW #20
DISSOULTION OF THE SENATE AND EXECUTIVE OFFICERS AND CABINET
Under the Authority of Decree Law #19, the Senate and all offices in the Executive government are hereby dissolved. The UAS Court System shall continue to operate.
Given my hand this 22 February 2021, 3:57 PM EST
HARMAN H. TEASEDALE
Chairman of the Union of Allied States
South Waterford
DECREE LAW #21
APPOINTMENT OF THE GOVERNMENT JUNTA OF THE UAS (GJUAS)
Under the Authority of Decree Law #19, I hereby appoint the following to the Government Junta of the UAS:
United Osean Federation
Cappedore
Highlock
La summa malitia
Elmito
Leria
United Sentinel States
Chokoku
Nimbys
United Osean Federation shall be designated as President of the Government Junta and shall assume command effective immediately. Highlock shall be designated as Foreign Minister and shall assume that office effective immediately.
The Government Junta of the UAS shall possess legislative and executive authority and the following powers are hereby granted by this decree:
Authority to create and repeal current laws of the UAS.
General government administration.
Authority to send Constitutional Amendments to the Chairman for approval or rejection.
Authority to appoint a cabinet to assist with General government administration.
Authority to discuss all Governmental matters on the UAS Discord in its own channel.
Authority to elect a Vice-President of the GJUAS if needed.
Authority to use the UAS Government Board RMB
The GJUAS shall file a report with the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and Chairman every five (5) days regarding its operations. Said report is to be filed on both the UAS Government Board and the UAS Court RMB.
Given my hand this 22 February 2021, 4:25 PM EST.
HARMAN H. TEASEDALE
Chairman of the Union of Allied States
South Waterford
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