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Ibenta wrote:> Pete Buttigieg announcing the Douglass Plan for racial justice.

Quick break-down?

Will it fix the whole 13%/50% issue in America?

Otira wrote:Quick break-down?

Will it fix the whole 13%/50% issue in America?

I think my last comment makes it clear what I think about Buttigieg and his proposal.

Ibenta wrote:I think my last comment makes it clear what I think about Buttigieg and his proposal.

Cautiously optimistic? ;)

Gagium and Ibenta

Ibenta wrote:> Pete Buttigieg announcing the Douglass Plan for racial justice.
> Claiming that over 400 organizations and prominent people back his plan.
> Literally just included the names of organizations and people that neither explicitly endorsed nor rejected the idea.
> Most of the people included--over half of the names on the list--are white because "racial equality is a universal issue."

Pete Buttigieg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Nc1zkiTvw&fbclid=IwAR35DumJYNV0v5Pw7o_fEoxYFMB6NCyF4ORjB9UFLMMHQTk3JYPRS85n-Ps

His website says that the plan includes "injecting capital into the Black community".

Sounds like wealth redistribution to me :/..True equality will only occur once they stop saying "black community" as if they're a different country or society from everyone else, I suppose. But, hey, why would you stop using what is essentially racism if it keeps buying you votes?

Gagium wrote:His website says that the plan includes "injecting capital into the Black community".

Sounds like wealth redistribution to me :/

Clearly more handouts are what they need. Right? RIGHT?!

Gagium wrote:His website says that the plan includes "injecting capital into the Black community".

Sounds like wealth redistribution to me :/

Well I mean to be fair there’s ton of politicians who’ve committed to giving a certain percent of government contracts to minority owned businesses which would qualify as injecting capital into the black community

Viridus, Gagium, and Ibenta

Ulrech wrote:Well I mean to be fair there’s ton of politicians who’ve committed to giving a certain percent of government contracts to minority owned businesses which would qualify as injecting capital into the black community

Yeah, sure, and that's mighty fine if race wasn't a role. I'd love to believe that the businesses being [insert race here]-owned would have nothing to do with it, but I don't know if that's how it is...Ugh. I don't know, modern society & race is confusing. I'd love to think that people wouldn't be racist either if the government wasn't helping minorities and that it's not necessary, but it may do be like that..Maybe I'm thinking about this for nothing - Perhaps, with the way modern society is going with race, true racial equality is impossible, at least in the near future, at least how the politicians are using race (Whether black, white, asian, hispanic, or otherwise) to garner votes.

His website also does say, "Mayor Pete understands that racism is not just a black and white issue, and that we also need to address the unique challenges facing other communities–from Native communities confronting poverty and dispossession to the Islamophobia impacting Middle Eastern, Arab, and South Asian communities, to dehumanizing immigration policies that stereotype the Latinx community and overlook their vital contributions to our economy".

I love how politicians seek to ensure that minorities are practically isolated in their own "communities", as he says so himself, so they can keep using them for votes. I'd love to see a candidate from the democrat side of things who actually recognizes that there's really only American communities, or at least aims to ensure that there will only be American communities in the end rather than homogeneous communities of [insert race here]...But really, "Islamophobia impacting Middle Eastern communities"? :p

Gagium wrote:
I love how politicians seek to ensure that minorities are practically isolated in their own "communities", as he says so himself, so they can keep using them for votes. I'd love to see a candidate from the democrat side of things who actually recognizes that there's really only American communities, or at least aims to ensure that there will only be American communities in the end rather than homogeneous communities of [insert race here]...But really, "Islamophobia impacting Middle Eastern communities"? :p

Their attitudes certainly seem to be distasteful to most white Americans, given the previous election results.
Why not, as you say, just try to help all American communities? Do poor whites not warrant special help with poverty and crime?

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Otira wrote:Cautiously optimistic? ;)

Sure, if it means that my optimism has been violently murdered.

Greetings. I'm saddened by the decline of my former region, the Social Conservative Axis. This seemed like a region in line with my values, and I hope that I can call it home.

if im going to join this region from conservative axis how can i climb ranks?

Ulrech, Viridus, Gagium, Enclave patriots, and 2 othersIbenta, and Greater Bastion

The Greysonian Empire wrote:if im going to join this region from conservative axis how can i climb ranks?

Here, just slide me a few bucks and I’ll give you Deputy Secretary of Internal Affairs ;)

kidding guys..By staying here a week and being in the WA you can basically become a Senator and help write and vote on laws without doing much at all to get to that position, and the longer you stay in the region as an active and trustworthy member the more likely it is that the next President or executive officer will appoint you to a position, whether it be as an officer, an employee under an officer’s department, or a justice

Hey everyone, the new NPP platform has been revised! Come read it here!

National Populist Party Platform

The National Populist Party




Populist Governance: The NPP will always push for more regional votes and referendums among the region's population. Therefore, the NPP will call for a constitutional amendment allowing for a two fifths vote among Senators to call a referendum among the general population, disregarding puppet states, on certain issues. The NPP will also push for a special Senate Region where Senators vote through puppet Senator nations, allowing for a more open voting process among the regional population, rather than the current Discord system. The NPP is also in favor of loosening Senator requirements and other reforms aimed to create a more balanced government, with proactive Senators who will interact more with regular citizens of the region.

Executive and Judicial Accountability: The NPP will push for a more powerful Senate over the Presidency. The NPP will push for a three fifiths, not two thirds, vote to overturn executive orders. The NPP is also in favor of Judicial Branch reforms, especially regarding term limits, recusing, appointment and selection, and trial procedures. The NPP will also push for a separation of powers doctrine, and ban members of the Executive and Judicial branches from voting in the Senate during their term.

Regional Military: The NPP will implement a stronger and more active regional military. The NPP will create a new "Federal Security Council" of Senate leadership, the Secretary of War, and the Chief of Intelligence, to advise the President on military matters. The Regional Military will be reorganized, reformed, and rebuilt. We also believe that the Senate and Secretary of War should approve any military action. The NPP will also push for alliances among like-minded regions to bring down dictatorial and communist regions. A conscription system will be set up for times of extraordinary crisis, however nations may choose to be conscientious objectors and will be exempt. The FCN will become a force for democracy in a tyrannical world.

Border Security: The NPP believes in a strong border security system and vetting process, allowing amicable nations to reside in the FCN while removing nations dedicated to interfering with the functioning of the region.

The World Assembly: The NPP will establish a FCN that works for itself, and not the WA. Under the NPP's proposed system, the WA delegate will represent the Senate, and will be directed to vote in accordance with the Senate's direction, and WA members of the FCN can petition the Senate Speaker to hold a WA-only poll on how the Senate is to direct the WA delegate. However, the NPP does not believe in punishing or taking any action against citizen nations who vote against the opinion of the Senate, as freedom of speech and thought should be held up as guiding lights in the FCN, not derided. The NPP is also in favor of coordinating votes with other conservative regions to spread the cause of conservatism and democracy throughout the entire WA.

Inter-Regional Relations: Under the NPP, the FCN will establish friendly relations with other democratic regions, and military alliances with conservative democratic regions. The NPP is also a staunch supporter of Senate Motion 10-3 (No Nazi Allies Doctrine) and will formally request to extend the No Nazi Allies Doctrine to all other authoritarian ideologies as well.

Inter-Regional Outreach: A new Cabinet officer, the Regional Recruiting Officer, will be created in order to actively seek out and recruit likeminded nations in the world to join the FCN.

Regional Roleplay: The NPP will implement new and creative roleplays, to be conducted on the RMB or Discord. The NPP is also in favor of creating a new Sub-Cabinet position called the "Regional Activities Director", who will serve under the Secretary of Internal Affairs, to help administer and serve as a nonbiased judge during regional roleplays. Roleplays with randomized outcomes (such as battles in militaristic roleplays) will also be implemented.

The Constitution: Our founding document, the Constitution is beloved by the NPP. We will always consult the Constitution and follow it to the letter when implementing domestic and foreign policy. However, the NPP is in favor of reviewing and amending the Constitution as needed to add or remove ideas to fit the ever changing nature of the FCN.

Political Parties: The NPP is a strong advocate of pluralism in the Senate and of multiparty systems. Nations have the right to express their views and create their own political party, and the inclusion of multiple parties will encourage an end to gridlock and usher in compromise.

Conservatism: We are a region of conservatives, by conservatives, and for conservatives. We will declare the FCN to be noncompliant with any left wing resolutions in the WA, and left wing ideals such as abortion, economic control, or nationalizing private property will never be implemented under the NPP.

Democracy: Democracy is the only rightful form of government, and the NPP will push to ensure free and fair elections.

Other Proposals and Promises: The NPP is in favor of creating a Puppet Registry, so to track and record all puppet nations.

Read factbook

New Inglaterra wrote:Hey everyone, the new NPP platform has been revised! Come read it here!

National Populist Party Platform

The National Populist Party




Populist Governance: The NPP will always push for more regional votes and referendums among the region's population. Therefore, the NPP will call for a constitutional amendment allowing for a two fifths vote among Senators to call a referendum among the general population, disregarding puppet states, on certain issues. The NPP will also push for a special Senate Region where Senators vote through puppet Senator nations, allowing for a more open voting process among the regional population, rather than the current Discord system. The NPP is also in favor of loosening Senator requirements and other reforms aimed to create a more balanced government, with proactive Senators who will interact more with regular citizens of the region.

Executive and Judicial Accountability: The NPP will push for a more powerful Senate over the Presidency. The NPP will push for a three fifiths, not two thirds, vote to overturn executive orders. The NPP is also in favor of Judicial Branch reforms, especially regarding term limits, recusing, appointment and selection, and trial procedures. The NPP will also push for a separation of powers doctrine, and ban members of the Executive and Judicial branches from voting in the Senate during their term.

Regional Military: The NPP will implement a stronger and more active regional military. The NPP will create a new "Federal Security Council" of Senate leadership, the Secretary of War, and the Chief of Intelligence, to advise the President on military matters. The Regional Military will be reorganized, reformed, and rebuilt. We also believe that the Senate and Secretary of War should approve any military action. The NPP will also push for alliances among like-minded regions to bring down dictatorial and communist regions. A conscription system will be set up for times of extraordinary crisis, however nations may choose to be conscientious objectors and will be exempt. The FCN will become a force for democracy in a tyrannical world.

Border Security: The NPP believes in a strong border security system and vetting process, allowing amicable nations to reside in the FCN while removing nations dedicated to interfering with the functioning of the region.

The World Assembly: The NPP will establish a FCN that works for itself, and not the WA. Under the NPP's proposed system, the WA delegate will represent the Senate, and will be directed to vote in accordance with the Senate's direction, and WA members of the FCN can petition the Senate Speaker to hold a WA-only poll on how the Senate is to direct the WA delegate. However, the NPP does not believe in punishing or taking any action against citizen nations who vote against the opinion of the Senate, as freedom of speech and thought should be held up as guiding lights in the FCN, not derided. The NPP is also in favor of coordinating votes with other conservative regions to spread the cause of conservatism and democracy throughout the entire WA.

Inter-Regional Relations: Under the NPP, the FCN will establish friendly relations with other democratic regions, and military alliances with conservative democratic regions. The NPP is also a staunch supporter of Senate Motion 10-3 (No Nazi Allies Doctrine) and will formally request to extend the No Nazi Allies Doctrine to all other authoritarian ideologies as well.

Inter-Regional Outreach: A new Cabinet officer, the Regional Recruiting Officer, will be created in order to actively seek out and recruit likeminded nations in the world to join the FCN.

Regional Roleplay: The NPP will implement new and creative roleplays, to be conducted on the RMB or Discord. The NPP is also in favor of creating a new Sub-Cabinet position called the "Regional Activities Director", who will serve under the Secretary of Internal Affairs, to help administer and serve as a nonbiased judge during regional roleplays. Roleplays with randomized outcomes (such as battles in militaristic roleplays) will also be implemented.

The Constitution: Our founding document, the Constitution is beloved by the NPP. We will always consult the Constitution and follow it to the letter when implementing domestic and foreign policy. However, the NPP is in favor of reviewing and amending the Constitution as needed to add or remove ideas to fit the ever changing nature of the FCN.

Political Parties: The NPP is a strong advocate of pluralism in the Senate and of multiparty systems. Nations have the right to express their views and create their own political party, and the inclusion of multiple parties will encourage an end to gridlock and usher in compromise.

Conservatism: We are a region of conservatives, by conservatives, and for conservatives. We will declare the FCN to be noncompliant with any left wing resolutions in the WA, and left wing ideals such as abortion, economic control, or nationalizing private property will never be implemented under the NPP.

Democracy: Democracy is the only rightful form of government, and the NPP will push to ensure free and fair elections.

Other Proposals and Promises: The NPP is in favor of creating a Puppet Registry, so to track and record all puppet nations.

Read factbook

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Jkjk.

Thomastica wrote:Greetings. I'm saddened by the decline of my former region, the Social Conservative Axis. This seemed like a region in line with my values, and I hope that I can call it home.

The Greysonian Empire wrote:if im going to join this region from conservative axis how can i climb ranks?

Do I smell new members for the Conservative Party lmao

Viridus, Gagium, and Ibenta

Post self-deleted by West Phoenicia.

Post self-deleted by West Phoenicia.

Ibenta

New Inglaterra wrote:
National Populist Party Platform

The National Populist Party




Populist Governance: The NPP will always push for more regional votes and referendums among the region's population. Therefore, the NPP will call for a constitutional amendment allowing for a two fifths vote among Senators to call a referendum among the general population, disregarding puppet states, on certain issues. The NPP will also push for a special Senate Region where Senators vote through puppet Senator nations, allowing for a more open voting process among the regional population, rather than the current Discord system. The NPP is also in favor of loosening Senator requirements and other reforms aimed to create a more balanced government, with proactive Senators who will interact more with regular citizens of the region.

Executive and Judicial Accountability: The NPP will push for a more powerful Senate over the Presidency. The NPP will push for a three fifiths, not two thirds, vote to overturn executive orders. The NPP is also in favor of Judicial Branch reforms, especially regarding term limits, recusing, appointment and selection, and trial procedures. The NPP will also push for a separation of powers doctrine, and ban members of the Executive and Judicial branches from voting in the Senate during their term.

Regional Military: The NPP will implement a stronger and more active regional military. The NPP will create a new "Federal Security Council" of Senate leadership, the Secretary of War, and the Chief of Intelligence, to advise the President on military matters. The Regional Military will be reorganized, reformed, and rebuilt. We also believe that the Senate and Secretary of War should approve any military action. The NPP will also push for alliances among like-minded regions to bring down dictatorial and communist regions. A conscription system will be set up for times of extraordinary crisis, however nations may choose to be conscientious objectors and will be exempt. The FCN will become a force for democracy in a tyrannical world.

Border Security: The NPP believes in a strong border security system and vetting process, allowing amicable nations to reside in the FCN while removing nations dedicated to interfering with the functioning of the region.

The World Assembly: The NPP will establish a FCN that works for itself, and not the WA. Under the NPP's proposed system, the WA delegate will represent the Senate, and will be directed to vote in accordance with the Senate's direction, and WA members of the FCN can petition the Senate Speaker to hold a WA-only poll on how the Senate is to direct the WA delegate. However, the NPP does not believe in punishing or taking any action against citizen nations who vote against the opinion of the Senate, as freedom of speech and thought should be held up as guiding lights in the FCN, not derided. The NPP is also in favor of coordinating votes with other conservative regions to spread the cause of conservatism and democracy throughout the entire WA.

Inter-Regional Relations: Under the NPP, the FCN will establish friendly relations with other democratic regions, and military alliances with conservative democratic regions. The NPP is also a staunch supporter of Senate Motion 10-3 (No Nazi Allies Doctrine) and will formally request to extend the No Nazi Allies Doctrine to all other authoritarian ideologies as well.

Inter-Regional Outreach: A new Cabinet officer, the Regional Recruiting Officer, will be created in order to actively seek out and recruit likeminded nations in the world to join the FCN.

Regional Roleplay: The NPP will implement new and creative roleplays, to be conducted on the RMB or Discord. The NPP is also in favor of creating a new Sub-Cabinet position called the "Regional Activities Director", who will serve under the Secretary of Internal Affairs, to help administer and serve as a nonbiased judge during regional roleplays. Roleplays with randomized outcomes (such as battles in militaristic roleplays) will also be implemented.

The Constitution: Our founding document, the Constitution is beloved by the NPP. We will always consult the Constitution and follow it to the letter when implementing domestic and foreign policy. However, the NPP is in favor of reviewing and amending the Constitution as needed to add or remove ideas to fit the ever changing nature of the FCN.

Political Parties: The NPP is a strong advocate of pluralism in the Senate and of multiparty systems. Nations have the right to express their views and create their own political party, and the inclusion of multiple parties will encourage an end to gridlock and usher in compromise.

Conservatism: We are a region of conservatives, by conservatives, and for conservatives. We will declare the FCN to be noncompliant with any left wing resolutions in the WA, and left wing ideals such as abortion, economic control, or nationalizing private property will never be implemented under the NPP.

Democracy: Democracy is the only rightful form of government, and the NPP will push to ensure free and fair elections.

Other Proposals and Promises: The NPP is in favor of creating a Puppet Registry, so to track and record all puppet nations.

Read factbook

As a former member of the government, It does not give me joy to say that your platform is one of the most dangerous set of proposals I have read from a political party. Believe me when I say that I do not speak as a member of the Conservative Party here. My time in regional politics is over, and I have no particular desire to actively engage the Senate once more. But if I must defend this Federation, I will. I implore you to reconsider your platform. Please do what is right and not what will serve to further your career as a politician.

Ibenta wrote:As a former member of the government, It does not give me joy to say that your platform is one of the most dangerous set of proposals I have read from a political party. Believe me when I say that I do not speak as a member of the Conservative Party here. My time in regional politics is over, and I have no particular desire to actively engage the Senate once more. But if I must defend this Federation, I will. I implore you to reconsider your platform. Please do what is right and not what will serve to further your career as a politician.

7 lines of sentences and you didn't give one example of their platform that has afflicted you.

The Greysonian Empire wrote:if im going to join this region from conservative axis how can i climb ranks?

Greysonian. Do what is right, not what will get you power. Power should only come as a consequence of a good heart and concerted effort. Indeed, power is not the ends. It is the means to something greater. Remember Aristotle and the Nicomachean Ethics. Act sincerely, and you will get far.

Ibenta

West Phoenicia wrote:7 lines of sentences and you didn't give one example of their platform that has afflicted you.

West Phoenicia, I can certainly write more than seven lines of what in the NPP's proposal troubles me. Indeed, I have written much more about you and the ADP. But I would rather hope that we can avoid such a long, fruitless debate and instead constructively improve our regional politics.

Again, I don't speak as a member of the Conservative Party here. I know you and I have had our partisan divisions, but let's not let that become the central issue here. New Ingla's platform is not viable, and it is not safe for this region. Beyond the fact that he, too, is a member of a small party, you should not ignore some glaring problems with his proposals.

I am going to give New Ingla my complete respect in that I will give him the opportunity to change his platform. If he chooses to ardently stick by his proposals, then I will have no other choice but to respond.

Ibenta wrote:West Phoenicia, I can certainly write more than seven lines of what in the NPP's proposal troubles me. Indeed, I have written much more about you and the ADP. But I would rather hope that we can avoid such a long, fruitless debate and instead constructively improve our regional politics.

Again, I don't speak as a member of the Conservative Party here. I know you and I have had our partisan divisions, but let's not let that become the central issue here. New Ingla's platform is not viable, and it is not safe for this region. Beyond the fact that he, too, is a member of a small party, you should not ignore some glaring problems with his proposals.

I am going to give New Ingla my complete respect in that I will give him the opportunity to change his platform. If he chooses to ardently stick by his proposals, then I will have no other choice but to respond.

Some of his platform I support. And I will be posting a Judicial Reforms Act in the Senate in the next few days. And I don't agree with all their platform. And I will be vocal about those I diagree with, when he tries to push through legislation in the Senate.

However I respect his right to have those views as the platforms of the NPP and it's right to exist as a political party in the FCN. He has the Constitution in his corner allowing him to create a party of his choosing as long as it's a political ideology that isn't banned.

As Conservatives we don't need to fear what is different. Conservatives should be open to other points of views. We just don't have to support them. It's damned if we do and rammed if we don't. Create another party, it gets cristicsed for being too similar to established ones. Create somethijg unique, get criticised for thinking outside the box. When the Senate bans opposing ideologies, one needs not complain if other parties start having similar platforms.

So instead of asking him to change his platform to suit you, which is selfish. Have faith that Senators will act accordingly when legislation that may be concerning to you is up for debate and voting.

Or you can do us the pleasure of rejoining the Senate, so you can voice those concerns and offer alternative legislation. Nothingis more important than having senators from all walks of life and approved ideology coming together in debate. And of the day we all want the best for the FCN.

West Phoenicia wrote:Some of his platform I support. And I will be posting a Judicial Reforms Act in the Senate in the next few days. And I don't agree with all their platform. And I will be vocal about those I diagree with, when he tries to push through legislation in the Senate.

However I respect his right to have those views as the platforms of the NPP and it's right to exist as a political party in the FCN. He has the Constitution in his corner allowing him to create a party of his choosing as long as it's a political ideology that isn't banned.

As Conservatives we don't need to fear what is different. Conservatives should be open to other points of views. We just don't have to support them. So instead of asking him to change his platform to suit you, which is selfish. Have faith that Senators will act accordingly when legislation that may be concerning to you is up for debate and voting.

Or you can do us the pleasure of rejoining the Senate, so you can voice those concerns and offer alternative legislation. Nothingis more important than having senators from all walks of life and approved ideology coming together in debate. And of the day we all want the best for the FCN.

I did not claim that he can't have a Party. I did not even claim that he can't have his flawed platform. I only implored him to change it. This is not a matter of politics nor is it a matter of ideological difference. His platform objectively infringes upon basic democratic principles and even interferes with several points of the Federal Constitution.

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