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Logon wrote:Imagine thinking that some guy who logs on once every three weeks to answer an issue is just as qualified to vote as an active member of the Discord

YES THIS

Meirshir wrote:Lastly, I'm not banned - yet. At least I'm not banned by legal terms, anyway.

You are, and currently you are ban evading.

Gagium wrote:That's..what democracy is, yes.."qualified to vote"

I had a teacher in what I believe is 6th grade for you, and he was hecca in favour of compulsory voting. Not that I am, but... If you have the right to vote, you may as well use it all the time.

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:You are, and currently you are ban evading.

Not from what I've been told, anyway.

Meirshir wrote:YES THIS

You're banned from the discord and it'll stay that way, but go "yes this" all you want.. :P

Gagium wrote:You're banned from the discord and it'll stay that way, but go "yes this" all you want.. :P

My trial was meant to be last Tuesday... Either way, I'll continue my "YES THISSING" until I'm banned.

Meirshir wrote:My trial was meant to be last Tuesday... Either way, I'll continue my "YES THISSING" until I'm banned.

You donít get a trial

Suribachi wrote:For the record, Discord is blocked on my computer by my parents. Just one voice, but I want to let it be known not "literally anyone" can get on Discord.

New Waldensia wrote:bUt YoU dOn'T cOuNt ApPaReNtLy

Are you suggesting that we have to care and even worry about the situation of his family? As harsh as this will sound, it really is not our problem if his parents don't allow him to use Discord. That's his personal problem.

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:Motion fails, will of the people prevail.

Look, I don't understand how you of all people can come here and say anything with credibility. You are a disgraced politician, and quite frankly, you should never again be trusted with any sort of power.

Count yourself lucky that you still have a vote in the Senate and a voice on the RMB. And on that note, be smart and don't bring more attention to yourself. Your past in this region's government is nothing to be proud of. You should have already publicly apologized and retired from all political activity by now.

Ibenta wrote:Count yourself lucky that you still have a vote in the Senate and a voice on the RMB.

What sort of threat is this?

New Waldensia wrote:What sort of threat is this?

I think what heís trying to say is that the region could have punished Rhiney more for his conduct during the whole NI affair and its aftermath, but they didnít. Not a threat, more a reminder. Thatís how I read it anyway.

Ibenta

New Waldensia wrote:What sort of threat is this?

It's not a threat. It's a statement of fact. He is lucky to still have a seat in the Senate after the scandal he was connected to.

It seems that the former Delegate ought to spend more time in this region to understand the nuances of current affairs. And if he can't, then he should at least refrain from just throwing out unfounded inferences.

It really helps to know what you're talking about or at least be humble when you don't.

Suribachi wrote:For the record, Discord is blocked on my computer by my parents. Just one voice, but I want to let it be known not "literally anyone" can get on Discord.

I cannot get on Discord because my parents said if I do I lose my phone.

Ibenta wrote:It's not a threat. It's a statement of fact. He is lucky to still have a seat in the Senate after the scandal he was connected to.

It seems that the former Delegate ought to spend more time in this region to understand the nuances of current affairs. And if he can't, then he should at least refrain from just throwing out unfounded inferences.

Allow me to quote from the Senate chamber:
Greater bastion
As far as I know, NI did not speak to Holy Rhinish Islands about this. In fact, NI spoke negatively about Rhiney behind closed doors.
[...]
Ulrech
Yíall do realize this has nothing to do with Rhiney right?

It seems to me that the current Delegate should be more diplomatic about his interactions with members of his region rather than casting caustic asperions on those whom he disagrees with.

Viridus, Gagium, Holy Rhinish Islands, Knat, and 3 othersAglonia, The Sladerstan, and Democratic federation party

Ibenta wrote:Are you suggesting that we have to care and even worry about the situation of his family? As harsh as this will sound, it really is not our problem if his parents don't allow him to use Discord. That's his personal problem.

Holy Rhinish Islands wrote:And that's the bad thing, not that they are on NS, but that we are on Discord. We aren't a DISCORD region, we are a NATIONSTATES region. People are forgetting that as each day passes more and more.

Ibenta

New Waldensia wrote:It seems to me that the current Delegate should be more diplomatic about his interactions with members of his region.

Coming from a person who implied I was threatening a former government official, I would say the same to the former Delegate. There is no need for such lies here, and the former Delegate ought not to allow his opposition to my bill cloud his judgement.

New Waldensia wrote:Allow me to quote from the Senate chamber:
[i]Greater bastion
As far as I know, NI did not speak to Holy Rhinish Islands about this. In fact, NI spoke negatively about Rhiney behind closed doors.

And I see that you haven't fully understood any one of our claims. To begin with, Ulrech asserted that Rhiney took orders from New Inglaterra after the former President himself released personal chat logs on the Discord General that showed the former head of the Executive Branch taking direct orders from the former leader of the NPP. Gagium even questioned Rhiney on this very point, based on the logs.

As for what I've claimed. I've claimed that Rhiney lacks the credibility--based on his past actions--to adequately comment on any, if not most, government affairs. He may certainly have the right to speak as he wishes--something he should feel very fortunate to still have--but he does not have the moral basis to speak with any authority.

For instance, if he were truly the populist voice of the people, as he so claims, then he wouldn't have taken his orders from our region's equivalent of Rasputin. He truly would have listened to the people. At least he listened to them enough to have resigned once New Inglaterra fled this region.

In any case, in direct response to your quote, that New Inglaterra hated Rhiney does not mean that the former Speaker didn't use the former President. That information does not cast even the slightest sufficient doubt.

Ibenta

The Sladerstan wrote:--Snip--

The way in which Rhiney uses the fact that we are a region on Nation States is peculiar. Yes. We recruit and partake in this game called Nation States by operating a page on this website. But every function of this region's government operates on the Discord out of necessity. We cannot, as Rhiney so conveniently does, ignore this fact. Debates can rarely be had on this platform--for instance--without moderators controlling what people say. And the threat of espionage and targeted raids against various regional outposts on this website is both present and clear.

Nearly every day as World Assembly Delegate, I see new resolutions in the Security Council trying to get entire regions liberated from absolutely devastating attacks. I see regions that even after liberation, fail to return to their former glory. The Federation of Conservative Nations has many enemies, and they would be all too glad to wipe us out in one strike if we foolishly decided to keep all of our government processes on Nation States. This cannot ever happen. That is why we have Discord.

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Now, some of you will probably wonder why I seemingly care so much about this region or why I use such alarming language. Let me put it you all this way; if the Federation were to disappear tomorrow, the largest, moderate voice for the Nation States right will have been wiped out in an instant. Let that sink in. In our collapse, the voice of the Nation States right would fall to the League of Conservative Nations and God knows what other right-wing regions fester on this platform. Think of matters in this way: we are the Israel of Nation States. If we go, that's it for our people.

Gagium, Greater bastion, Mietkael, and Knat

Ibenta wrote:Think of matters in this way: we are the Israel of Nation States. If we go, that's it for our people.

Tags San Carlos Islands

I will echo some of the things Ibentahas said in regards to the Rhiney ordeal Holy Rhinish Islands literally admitted the Inglaterra told him what to say Iím the debates although the incident of spying in particular had nothing to do with Rhiney...Rhiney and NI were basically joined at the hip

Ulrech wrote:I will echo some of the things [natione]Ibenta[/nation]has said in regards to the Rhiney ordeal Holy Rhinish Islands literally admitted the Inglaterra told him what to say Iím the debates although the incident of spying in particular had nothing to do with Rhiney...Rhiney and NI were basically joined at the hip

You can't remove someone from the senate for that though.

Meanwhile me, an indie watching the conservatives and the nationalists going @ each other's throats *lul* .

Juicy content for the next FCN times edition.

Hi I know Iím not in this region any more but I would just like to say that Rhiney basically did whatever I told him to do during the debates.

Additionally, it was I who told him to do a lot of the early administration stuff, like who to appoint to his Cabinet.

In fact, when he started to have a mind of his own I was ready to remove him from the NPP.

I know my opinion isnít quite valued here anymore, but I figured you should know.

Ulrech is wrong when he says Rhiney and I were joined at the hip.

Rhiney was in the palm of my hand.

New inglaterra wrote:Hi I know Iím not in this region any more but I would just like to say that Rhiney basically did whatever I told him to do during the debates.

Additionally, it was I who told him to do a lot of the early administration stuff, like who to appoint to his Cabinet.

In fact, when he started to have a mind of his own I was ready to remove him from the NPP.

I know my opinion isnít quite valued here anymore, but I figured you should know.

Boo, get out of here traitor!

New Waldensia, Gagium, Knat, and Democratic federation party

Baconstate wrote:Meanwhile me, an indie watching the conservatives and the nationalists going @ each other's throats *lul* .

Juicy content for the next FCN times edition.

What are nationalists? The irrelevant Viridus party?

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