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Sernet wrote:

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We use high speed rails here in Rumargan. Reaching 240 km/h in just 5 seconds, and topping out at 965km/h over 30 more seconds, these marvels of land speed technological wonder get Rumargani long distances faster than the average airline flight and with a better safety record and impact on the environment.

To commemorate the opening of embassies, the Lunch Table offers a token of appreciation.

**Presents a bottle of Rioja Alavesa and a silver token with the word "appreciation" written on it.**

Hello everyone!

Kraken Barmaid wrote:

Who needs a drink?

I'll take a Malibu bay breeze.

Kraken Barmaid wrote:

Who needs a drink?

Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rumargan wrote:

Coffee. Black. Hot.

Dihydrogen Oxide. Mineral. Cold.

Karamuru wrote:

Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Ah yes, the Jean-Luc Picard. Here you go

Rumargan wrote:

Coffee. Black. Hot.

Coffee, made extra black with squid ink, and extra hot by brewing over an underwater volcano

The United British Federation wrote:

Dihydrogen Oxide. Mineral. Cold.

One glass of water straight from the depths of the pacific

Cantors Paradise wrote:

So tempting to post "Blood. Red. 98.6°". But not Halloween is over till next year...

That’s Vampire Barmaid’s speciality

Kraken Barmaid wrote:

Ah yes, the Jean-Luc Picard. Here you go
Coffee, made extra black with squid ink, and extra hot by brewing over an underwater volcano

Mine was Captain Janeway's. 😆

Kraken Barmaid wrote:

Then you should have specified coffee made from organic matter taken after breaking the prime directive

Hey, you and your crew might violate a Prime Directive or two on an extended voyage like that. LoL They were out of order for just being where they were! Borg retrofit was pretty attractive though.

Karamuru wrote:

My motto is the best answer to prime directive violators.

All Starfleet Captains and Admirals, please report to your nearest dining facilities for a thorough career review for any violations of the Prime Directive and, very likely, a meal thereafter. Please report wearing your mess-dress uniforms as one eats with their eyes first. All First and Second Officers, please report to your Operations Chiefs for a brief on avoiding Prime Directive violations and, very likely, a promotional review thereafter; reporting in the uniform of the day will be sufficient.

Gypsy Lands wrote:

Wasn't the Prime Directive violated every time they set foot on an alien planet?

Not... inherently. Correct context included either an element of full concealment, leading in some cases to the denial and abandonment of entire observation teams in the event of their discovery, or open agreement wherein Starfleet visitors were inherently assumed to have been briefed on the hosting culture's laws, customs, and traditions while the hosting culture committed in return to recognizing Starfleet's similar systems in regards to those visitors, whether that was agreed to through treaties and policies automating that agreement's execution or some other means like on-the-spot diplomacy authorization or case-by-case review.

The Prime Directive in its total language (beyond the frequently quoted highlights) gives a lot of breathing room for when the heat of a moment demands a snap decision from the ranking Starfleet member present in that situation; the languaging's depth and precision is why the Academy has an entire course track focused around litigating just the Prime Directive. In no small coincidence, Retired Admiral Kirk's behavior aboard the original Enterprise did a great deal to highlight and refine the Prime Directive's weaknesses (and create that course track) in terms of not covering certain situations or having loopholes large enough for Sulu to tightly... and repeatedly... navigate an entire galaxy class starship through. The Vulcans were supposed to have been more help with that before things ever got to Kirk, but eh... {shrugs} I truly believe they like watching Terrans FAFO. They didn't start taking Terrans seriously until Spock, and that's only because they didn't want the results of one of theirs shacking up with one of ours turning into interplanetary drama... which it did... repeatedly... in multiple timelines.

But I digress... {clears throat} ...the larger point being that there's so much latitude in the Prime Directive from things that happened in story from Kirk to Picard to Cisco along the way (and arguably, Archer and Pike), I'm shocked there was any room left for Janeway to fk it up, which is what makes it so astronomically wild that she still managed to do it anyway! By the time a dedicated Star Trek viewer has watched the major series installations chronologically and gets to Janeway, they're like, "No, protocol allowed for that to have been done the right way and still saved just as many lives; she didn't have to violate the PD right then," and those moments happen kind of a lot as series plot drivers. I feel, even as a dedicated fan, that it's kind of a weakness on the part of the writers in every installation; even Picard, in his latest namesake epilogue, just thrashes the Prime Directive at every turn with a wink and grin each time. It felt like the writers were like, "We know; we keep doing that, but look how cool the pewpew lasers have gotten... roll combat footage for a distraction!"

Look at that -- the real final frontier is how a Starfleet Captain can still cross that line regardless of who's boldly tread across it before. Cappies be needlessly skipping rope with the Prime Directive like schoolgirls doing double-Dutch to a nursery rhyme.

Steel Dynasty wrote:

I don't celebrate Thanksgiving because I'm not American.

same like me.

Gypsy Lands wrote:

Do you celebrate Independence Day?

In next years bro.

Rumargan wrote:

Not... inherently. Correct context included either an element of full concealment, leading in some cases to the denial and abandonment of entire observation teams in the event of their discovery, or open agreement wherein Starfleet visitors were inherently assumed to have been briefed on the hosting culture's laws, customs, and traditions while the hosting culture committed in return to recognizing Starfleet's similar systems in regards to those visitors, whether that was agreed to through treaties and policies automating that agreement's execution or some other means like on-the-spot diplomacy authorization or case-by-case review.

The Prime Directive in its total language (beyond the frequently quoted highlights) gives a lot of breathing room for when the heat of a moment demands a snap decision from the ranking Starfleet member present in that situation; the languaging's depth and precision is why the Academy has an entire course track focused around litigating just the Prime Directive. In no small coincidence, Retired Admiral Kirk's behavior aboard the original Enterprise did a great deal to highlight and refine the Prime Directive's weaknesses (and create that course track) in terms of not covering certain situations or having loopholes large enough for Sulu to tightly... and repeatedly... navigate an entire galaxy class starship through. The Vulcans were supposed to have been more help with that before things ever got to Kirk, but eh... {shrugs} I truly believe they like watching Terrans FAFO. They didn't start taking Terrans seriously until Spock, and that's only because they didn't want the results of one of theirs shacking up with one of ours turning into interplanetary drama... which it did... repeatedly... in multiple timelines.

But I digress... {clears throat} ...the larger point being that there's so much latitude in the Prime Directive from things that happened in story from Kirk to Picard to Cisco along the way (and arguably, Archer and Pike), I'm shocked there was any room left for Janeway to fk it up, which is what makes it so astronomically wild that she still managed to do it anyway! By the time a dedicated Star Trek viewer has watched the major series installations chronologically and gets to Janeway, they're like, "No, protocol allowed for that to have been done the right way and still saved just as many lives; she didn't have to violate the PD right then," and those moments happen kind of a lot as series plot drivers. I feel, even as a dedicated fan, that it's kind of a weakness on the part of the writers in every installation; even Picard, in his latest namesake epilogue, just thrashes the Prime Directive at every turn with a wink and grin each time. It felt like the writers were like, "We know; we keep doing that, but look how cool the pewpew lasers have gotten... roll combat footage for a distraction!"

Look at that -- the real final frontier is how a Starfleet Captain can still cross that line regardless of who's boldly tread across it before. Cappies be needlessly skipping rope with the Prime Directive like schoolgirls doing double-Dutch to a nursery rhyme.

Boooring. The Prime Directive is another xeno failed experiment. Every primitive civilisation should be EXTERMINATED IN THE NAME OF THE GOD-EMPEROR.