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Mzeusia wrote:Hi to both of you.

^_^

Your Imaginary Friend wrote:Hello! How are things in the realms of the rejected? :)

They’re pretty good right about now! We’ve got a meme contest happening.

Leonism wrote:Where does the Pope of Lazarus sit anyways?

Lazarean Catholicism, or Lazarean Orthodoxy?

Denado wrote:Lazarean Catholicism, or Lazarean Orthodoxy?

I thought of Catholicism. The "Pope" of Orthodoxy would be called "Patriarch" afaik.

Leonism wrote:I thought of Catholicism. The "Pope" of Orthodoxy would be called "Patriarch" afaik.

Yeah I was under the impression patriarchs could still be referred to as popes but the only other Pope I can find is of the coptic church in Alexandria

Leonism wrote:Where does the Pope of Lazarus sit anyways?

Tubbius has chairs sized for His Rotundity!

Advisor: "Good afternoon glorious leader. What's your next plan of action?"

Boris: "We shall make harming animals illegal, ban hunting and make large funds into safe energy. Force subjected nations to pay pollution taxes which will help fund research. No more police officers, use the military. Grant free healthcare and even education to the nations of the world. That's all I can think of right now. Wait, one more thing. No more shall people use "I", making it illegal. We must all say "We".

Advisor: "Of course! We'll get these tasks done as soon as possible!"

Habemus Papam, ego sum.

Morpegoe wrote:Habemus Papam, ego sum.

*The Encyclopédistes began to spin in their graves with enough force to generate a few megawatts.

Aigania wrote:*The Encyclopédistes began to spin in their graves with enough force to generate a few megawatts.

Bene. Directed away from their final cause, the impious will find no rest from their perpetual motion.

After an accidental post-lunches nap in the hot tub, Tubbius found Himself missing His eyeglasses and fumbling about for clothes. His first mistake was nearly overturning His wardrobe with a stumbled smash from His belly. His second mistake was dropping His glasses on finding them atop said bureau. His third mistake was accidentally trying to put on one of Her Maternity's Tubbras rather than one of His due to His being unable to see properly. Needless to say, His extra two Tubbs meant that His "girls" were not going to fit comfortably in the garment.

Mrs. Tubbius, chuckling, managed to set the wobbly closet to rights, scoop up the spectacles, and then take Her Tubbra away and hand over His, which is much more roomy and ample-sized.

All is well in Treadwellia!

Morpegoe wrote:Bene. Directed away from their final cause, the impious will find no rest from their perpetual motion.

To do as such, it will need the existence of the "faithful", but by existing and making them spin, they can be part of a power generation facility of a materialistic power.

And that instrumentalize their faith in a commodity for a rational, secular order.

Bene, indeed.

141 days of Treadwellia! Mmph MMPH!

Aigania wrote:To do as such, it will need the existence of the "faithful", but by existing and making them spin, they can be part of a power generation facility of a materialistic power.

And that instrumentalize their faith in a commodity for a rational, secular order.

Bene, indeed.

Non dictus bene, as the first cause--the Prime Mover--is the only necessary cause of any given effect. All that which instrumental causes could accomplish can be accomplished by the first cause alone, as is indicated in the Liber de causis. Thus, the materialistic power of generated in your facility is not an unwitting by product of the existence of the faithful, but an act of providence of the Omniscient God, whose vicar on earth is none but yours truly. This materialistic potency will not result in a rational, secular order, but a rational, secular chaos, since it only possesses its first actuality--existence--and not its second actuality--a form actuated by striving towards God, the final cause of all things, as secularism ipso facto is a renunciation of the Divine as the proper end of existence. Well played.

You two enjoy your conversation. I'll be taking some secular aspirin with my secular Mzeusian tea.

Tubbius frowns unhappily at His Tubbox gaming system. It suddenly wanted to download an update, but the TubbNet is being fickle tonight.

On top of that, His Portliness is burning up in His nightgown tonight. That might just have to come off, even if it means His sitting in bed in just Tubbra and underwear.

Or, Mrs. Tubbius hrm hrms, He could just turn down the heat slightly. While Piggy Cliff is perpetually snowy, now, even in summer, there might be such a thing as being too warm. She isn't very pleased, Herself, at the moment. One of the maids in the palace is about to begin labor for twins within the hour, and Her Gravidity is both burning up, as well, and beginning to feel the divinely connected sympathetic pains and contractions.

His Rotundity politely adjusts the thermostat, wriggles out of His gown, and softly mmphs His support for this rather frequent occurrence. Tubbians are nothing if not fat and prolific, just like their royal many-great-grandparents. At least these pseudo-deliveries do nothing to harm or affect Her Motherhood's own, rather often, pregnancies. If they did, there would never be any more baby princes and princesses--certainly not MORE.

What is your least favorite animal? =P

Mine is either snakes, ticks or cockroaches... I freak out really bad when I see any of them! .-.

Your Imaginary Friend wrote:What is your least favorite animal? =P

Mine is either snakes, ticks or cockroaches... I freak out really bad when I see any of them! .-.

Tubbius has many, but the common ant is his least favorite, having dealt with two years of infestations before in the kitchen.

Your Imaginary Friend wrote:What is your least favorite animal? =P

Mine is either snakes, ticks or cockroaches... I freak out really bad when I see any of them! .-.

Definitely spiders, followed by wasps and mosquitoes. Only since I have small children do I spare spiders lives (sometimes). Otherwise I kill all three kinds of creatures on the spot.

Wasps deserve a special place in hell. Common advice is to stay still and then they will allegedly leave you alone. In reality, the last two times I was stung by wasps were when I remained calm, while whenever I viciously attack them I remain unharmed...

Leonism wrote:I thought of Catholicism. The "Pope" of Orthodoxy would be called "Patriarch" afaik.

LITTLE KNOWN IRL FACT: Old orthodoxy did have popes, but unlike catholicism, it was very low rank of religious servant, and there was supposed to be one for every village.

*tHe mOrE yOu kNoW*

The Copper States wrote:LITTLE KNOWN IRL FACT: Old orthodoxy did have popes, but unlike catholicism, it was very low rank of religious servant, and there was supposed to be one for every village.

*tHe mOrE yOu kNoW*

I am well aware of this. In Greece the local priests are still called "Pope" to this day.

Treadwellia wrote:Tubbius has many, but the common ant is his least favorite, having dealt with two years of infestations before in the kitchen.

You must be pretty good at that now.

AdelsinI am going to be away for a while.

Morpegoe wrote:Non dictus bene, as the first cause--the Prime Mover--is the only necessary cause of any given effect. All that which instrumental causes could accomplish can be accomplished by the first cause alone, as is indicated in the Liber de causis. Thus, the materialistic power of generated in your facility is not an unwitting by product of the existence of the faithful, but an act of providence of the Omniscient God, whose vicar on earth is none but yours truly. This materialistic potency will not result in a rational, secular order, but a rational, secular chaos, since it only possesses its first actuality--existence--and not its second actuality--a form actuated by striving towards God, the final cause of all things, as secularism ipso facto is a renunciation of the Divine as the proper end of existence. Well played.

1) Prime Mover? Thomas Aquinas today? Ok, I will bite the bait. No the cause of any affect is the interaction between space-time and quantum fields (around 150 as today), and the transmissions of forces to make a force through bosons. (More or less).

2) There can be a first cause alone to predetermine everything at the end. Even when a system is perfectly known an described by a set of equations, the predictions at long time cannot be made due to deterministic chaos. Not mentioning natural limits.

3) Or simple a consequence of the rules existing.

4) Slow here, cowboy. The mistake of theologians and philosopher, running to their conclusions.

"This materialistic potency will not result in a rational, secular order, but a rational, secular chaos" [And the point is ...? You are supposing innate moral values to order and chaos. But it doesn't work like that. Life is a complex system in the verge of both. Do you like a ordered system? Try a mineral crystal. Dead.
Even more, chaos can be the result of a highly complex order. We are long beyond the conception of the world like a clockwork or even needing one clock maker]

since it only possesses its first actuality--existence--and not its second actuality-- [Nope; not second guessing or occult variables. The Bell's Theorem is clear, uncertainty prevail].

a form actuated by striving towards God [That's teleological, not a logical consequence. It's the expression of a desire, not a conclusion. Even the repacked "Omega" point from some transhumanists. They are simply relabeling in a secular way Christian theology.]

, the final cause of all things, [Not even close. Besides for a innate truth, religion can be funny contentious, which supreme god? Why not a pantheon? Or a philosophical principle? Ah, the constraints of Abrahamic Tree of religions]

as secularism ipso facto is a renunciation of the Divine [No it is a separation. Even in the Bible by Jesus, Matthew 22:21 Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's." By the way you are mistaking secularism (the separation of religion influence on civil society with atheism, with no consideration to agnosticism).
Unfortunately quite common.

as the proper end of existence. [Something that it is more than vaporous that one can be for sure. (Simulation hypothesis and Bolztmann Brains)]

Well played. [We have barely begun]

Sneyland wrote:AdelsinI am going to be away for a while.

Are u leaving me 4 another farmer :(

-_- fine I'll farm myself. Just go. :(

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