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Brulave wrote:Another Fun Fact: Mozart created a musical piece called "Leck mich im Aarsch" which is a primitive way of saying "Kiss my a**"

are you saying that German is a primitive language

Lycos wrote:are you saying that German is a primitive language

Probably is, I doubt Germany is still a thing after losing both world wars.

New Sukberia and Dalmyria

Holocovoy wrote:Probably is, I doubt Germany is still a thing after losing both world wars.

"north macedonia"
😂

Holocovoy

Nordsville wrote:"north macedonia"
😂

Against all odds.

Grumbles

Nordsville wrote:"north macedonia"
😂

lmao, nah that's just Greece

New Rightia wrote:lmao, nah that's just Greece

Dreadful.

Welcome to Niamark, Tascuba! Make sure to look at the tips in our welcome telegram.

QOTD!!

What is your favorite pastry or bakery item?

Oi Barbaroi wrote:QOTD!!

What is your favorite pastry or bakery item?

Cinnamon Buns/Rolls

Oi Barbaroi and Dalmyria

I'm thinking of creating a new nation along with this one, what do you guys think?

Dalmyria

Oi Barbaroi wrote:QOTD!!

What is your favorite pastry or bakery item?

Difficult question! I love a croissant and a well-fired roll. But there were these delicious apple/custard pastries I got on holiday one time and I can’t remember what they were called :|

I notice the current WA proposal is garnering quite a lot of votes, but there are many aspects of it that I am concerned about. It is overall a necessary piece of legislation, but when it comes to the specifics there are some things which detract from it, namely;

* Introductory clause 2 - this is a bit random and out-of-place, since the actual provisions are about disability exclusively. But, I would be prepared to let that slide if only the problems listed below were not also present.

* The definition - what does ‘within their own or their doctor’s jurisdiction’ mean? Does that essentially mean anyone can identify as disabled and be entitled to the provisions of the resolution? Identification of disability resting with medical professionals would be better IMO

* Clause 2d - what about detainment where they are a risk of harm to themselves? This is not permitted under the current wording.

* 4 - I feel like this needs to be more nuanced. Discrimination can be necessary, eg where the disability is disqualifying for a physical role. Would have preferred this to be closer to 2b, which says qualified disabled applicants for jobs can’t receive worse terms of employment. UK equality law requires “reasonable adjustments” to accommodate disabled persons - this approach would be much more helpful rather than denying the reality that many disabled people are sadly unable to serve as a firefighter eg

Not sure it solves the problems it sets out to either. Eg introductory clause one talks about the need for infrastructure to help the disabled, but that is not really what the res actually does

Dalmyria wrote:I notice the current WA proposal is garnering quite a lot of votes, but there are many aspects of it that I am concerned about. It is overall a necessary piece of legislation, but when it comes to the specifics there are some things which detract from it, namely;

* Introductory clause 2 - this is a bit random and out-of-place, since the actual provisions are about disability exclusively. But, I would be prepared to let that slide if only the problems listed below were not also present.

* The definition - what does ‘within their own or their doctor’s jurisdiction’ mean? Does that essentially mean anyone can identify as disabled and be entitled to the provisions of the resolution? Identification of disability resting with medical professionals would be better IMO

* Clause 2d - what about detainment where they are a risk of harm to themselves? This is not permitted under the current wording.

* 4 - I feel like this needs to be more nuanced. Discrimination can be necessary, eg where the disability is disqualifying for a physical role. Would have preferred this to be closer to 2b, which says qualified disabled applicants for jobs can’t receive worse terms of employment. UK equality law requires “reasonable adjustments” to accommodate disabled persons - this approach would be much more helpful rather than denying the reality that many disabled people are sadly unable to serve as a firefighter eg

1) With the "doctor's jurisdiction" part, by jurisdiction it seems they mean a sort of judgement or decision. It says "in one's own, a guardian's, or a doctor's jurisdiction", so based on what is seen or felt, it us decided an individual has a disability.

2) As far as Clause 2d goes, it does say "refrain", rather than "mandate" or so on. Basically, this is meant to discourage detainment unless absolutely necessary, as is the case in possibility of self-harm.

3) I feel like Article 4 is fine, since it seems to reference how the disabled are treated as a whole in society. In a job situation, you're not necessarily discriminating against a physically disabled person if you don't pick them for a physically taxing position. They may be disqualified because of what the job requires, but not discriminated. Discrimination has to do more with prejudice and hate, and overall how you don't respect someone else's dignity because of certain traits they may have. It doesn't have to reflect in saying yes or no based on capability.

Dalmyria

New Rightia wrote:I'm thinking of creating a new nation along with this one, what do you guys think?

Why not? Go for it.

Question of the Day!
What is your favorite genre of music?

Oi Barbaroi and Woodapple

Blazewater wrote:Question of the Day!
What is your favorite genre of music?

Definitely not rap, or hip hop.

Dalmyria

Blazewater wrote:Question of the Day!
What is your favorite genre of music?

Yes.

Blazewater wrote:Question of the Day!
What is your favorite genre of music?

Metal

Why are potatoes not on the poll. Wood, you're fired.

Oi Barbaroi and Woodapple

Lycos wrote:Why are potatoes not on the poll. Wood, you're fired.

Actually, potato is a vegetable
I put any type of fruit and veggie
therefore potatoes were included
:3

Blazewater wrote:Question of the Day!
What is your favorite genre of music?

Anything that I find pleasing to my ears and head for long periods of time

Dalmyria and Globulus States

Dalmyria

Oi Barbaroi wrote:1) With the "doctor's jurisdiction" part, by jurisdiction it seems they mean a sort of judgement or decision. It says "in one's own, a guardian's, or a doctor's jurisdiction", so based on what is seen or felt, it us decided an individual has a disability.

2) As far as Clause 2d goes, it does say "refrain", rather than "mandate" or so on. Basically, this is meant to discourage detainment unless absolutely necessary, as is the case in possibility of self-harm.

3) I feel like Article 4 is fine, since it seems to reference how the disabled are treated as a whole in society. In a job situation, you're not necessarily discriminating against a physically disabled person if you don't pick them for a physically taxing position. They may be disqualified because of what the job requires, but not discriminated. Discrimination has to do more with prejudice and hate, and overall how you don't respect someone else's dignity because of certain traits they may have. It doesn't have to reflect in saying yes or no based on capability.

I still don't think it should be within one's own jurisdiction to decide, but since it only affects the provisions of this resolution and not domestic legal definitions it's fine, I guess. You have persuaded me on 2d. As for article 4, I am prepared to go with that interpretation of 'discrimination', even though I understand the word more broadly. I think the resolution intends that we go with your interpretation :-)

Blazewater wrote:Question of the Day!
What is your favorite genre of music?

Rock probably. According to Spotify my No1 genre last year was "dance pop" but that's...not correct. Much of current pop music bit rubbish; 80s and 90s best decades

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