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Ionalands wrote:Ok so upsetting people is bad, but as long as it's from a nazi or bigoted viewpoint, it's ok then.

Makes sense.

No, where did Cauva purposefully try to anger someone?

Cauva and Condaian

Communism is bigotry.

Cauva and Condaian

Varzo wrote:149 messages. Hm.

It's pretty heated. :)

Varzo and Condaian

Krimera wrote:I advocate it for voting on elections, endorsements, land claims, and constitutional adjustments. Here was just quicker and doesn't actually do anything but to get a grasp of what people agree with at the moment.

I just hope people don't use their puppets to double vote. That just shows insecurity in your own beliefs.

Hunzali and Scalesburg

What would you propose instead since you have chosen other?

Cauva wrote:It's pretty heated. :)

What happened?

Krimera wrote:Hunzali and Scalesburg

What would you propose instead since you have chosen other?

I propose that we condemn all you listed AND Nazism, as Nazism literally holds all those beliefs in it's ideology.

Scalesburg wrote:I just hope people don't use their puppets to double vote. That just shows insecurity in your own beliefs.

It will be apparent if people start using their puppets to vote cause you can literally click the "Voters" tab and see who voted.

Varzo wrote:What happened?

Hunzali wrote:To all of Novus Lucidum!

Today, me, Ebengar, Ionalands, and Jesia have decided a near total strike on RP until the now burning issue of white supremacy in the region is addressed. With the exception of Ebengar finishing his meeting with IDM, we will stop talking on the Discord, and stop doing IC related posts in total. We want NNE, Krimera, Rilandse, and all government officials to cave into our following demands:

-Public condemnation of Nazism.
-End to 'edgy' posting on Discord and in other places we discuss.
-Ban on nazi imagery in Discord or otherwise.
-A ban on pro-cultural and racial supremacy posts.

TAG: New Nationale Einheit, Krimera, Rilandse, Gothic vandelia.

Apostate

Varzo wrote:What happened?

Attempted murder of free speech

Rilandse

If we ban Nazism, we should ban Communsim. If we don't I'll go on strike, I guess.

I guess the Ministry of Infrastructure, Justice, and Foreign Affairs will be on halt.

Scalesburg, Cauva, and Condaian

Hunzali wrote:I propose that we condemn all you listed AND Nazism, as Nazism literally holds all those beliefs in it's ideology.

Including Nazism would be against the constitution and would lead to a slippery slope with other beliefs.

Since you yourself said it (Nazism) holds all those beliefs, then you should be fine with the way the poll was proposed. Due to it encompassing all beliefs that share what we plan to condemn once again, but not by name.

Condaian

Rilandse wrote:If we ban Nazism, we should ban Communsim. If we don't I'll go on strike, I guess.

I guess the Ministry of Infrastructure, Justice, and Foreign Affairs will be on halt.

May we add every ideology to ever exist onto that list?

Scalesburg, Rilandse, and Condaian

Post self-deleted by Ionalands.

Rilandse

Cauva wrote:May we add every ideology to ever exist onto that list?

We can't ban socialism and Homonationalism. That would be bigoted.

Cauva

Cauva wrote:May we add every ideology to ever exist onto that list?

What's your alternative to the poll?

Rilandse wrote:If we ban Nazism, we should ban Communsim. If we don't I'll go on strike, I guess.

I guess the Ministry of Infrastructure, Justice, and Foreign Affairs will be on halt.

God you are just so stupid. There's not a nice way to put it.

If a communist starts advocating for people to be murdered, ban 'em.

Ebengar

Rilandse wrote:If we ban Nazism, we should ban Communsim. If we don't I'll go on strike, I guess.

I guess the Ministry of Infrastructure, Justice, and Foreign Affairs will be on halt.

Well, good on you I guess. Sure, go on strike, I couldn't care less. It just seems awfully stupid to do so.

Krimera wrote:What's your alternative to the poll?

A condemnation is fine but unnecessary. I suppose my vote would actually just be "yes", but I don't think there's any issues that require this.

Condaian

Rilandse wrote:We can't ban socialism and Homonationalism. That would be bigoted.

F*ck off with your homophobia.

"Homonationalism" is a lie and you know it

Ebengar and Hunzali

Krimera wrote:Hunzali and Scalesburg

What would you propose instead since you have chosen other?

Racism, sexism, etc. should be considered bad and not welcomed in our region, in an OOC context.

However, I believe we shouldn't restrict someone's political beliefs, in the political channel, because it goes against the norm. That's wrong.

If someone said they disagreed with the idea of a man and a man being together, or a woman and a woman.. then that's fine as long as it's discussed in the political channel, where it's appropriate to talk about it civilly. Once you go into the general chat channel, or the RMB, talking about it is NOT allowed.

Everyone is entitled to their own respectful political ideologies and they should be allowed to share and express them in the political channel.

If people bash on those with radical views IN OR OUT of the political channel, THAT IS WRONG. I don't care if you supported the 9/11 attacks because you believe in the idea of Al-Qaeda, you shouldn't censor what they have to say in.

The BIG problem I see we're all having is finding that line. That line has too much gray in it and it becomes increasingly frustrating when you try to make EVERYONE happy. This goes back to my statement of "what if I say I got hurt from you believing in LGBT". We can't snowflake this region and the simple fact that some of us are whining about different political stances ON NATIONSTATES out of all websites where DIFFERENT POLITICS are encouraged, it just baffles me beyond insanity!

Ionalands wrote:God you are just so stupid. There's not a nice way to put it.

If a communist starts advocating for people to be murdered, ban 'em.

So you'd be ok if people start avocation for a fascism?

I can't name one communist society that hasn't called for the violent overthrow of the upper classes.

Condaian

Ionalands wrote:F*ck off with your homophobia.

"Homonationalism" is a lie and you know it

Unless you legit go into the deepest pit of 4chan, homonationalism is fake. That or a deep pit in Tumblr.

Hunzali wrote:Well, good on you I guess. Sure, go on strike, I couldn't care less. It just seems awfully stupid to do so.

You're doing it and it seems rather stupid.

Ionalands wrote:F*ck off with your homophobia.

"Homonationalism" is a lie and you know it

I'm not homophobic. This is slander.

New Nationale Einheit and Condaian

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