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Ionalands wrote:I mean I feel like it is a fair question to ask.

How do we define "harassment".

Let me check the Canadian Human Rights Commission for an example.

Harassment is a form of discrimination. It includes any unwanted physical or verbal behaviour that offends or humiliates you. Generally, harassment is a behaviour that persists over time. Serious one-time incidents can also sometimes be considered harassment.

Harassment occurs when someone
makes unwelcome remarks or jokes about your race, religion, sex, age, disability or any other of the grounds of discrimination;
threatens or intimidates you because of your race, religion, sex, age, disability or any other of the grounds of discrimination;
makes unwelcome physical contact with you, such as touching, patting, or pinching.

Examples of Harassment
A colleague repeatedly makes fun of your hijab
A manager regularly makes inappropriate comments about your physical appearance
An employee threatens your safety following a heated discussion
A supervisor rubs your shoulders despite your repeated objections

Ionalands and Condaian

Krimera wrote:Let me check the Canadian Human Rights Commission for an example.

Harassment is a form of discrimination. It is verbal behaviour that offends or humiliates you. Generally, harassment is a behaviour that persists over time. Serious one-time incidents can also sometimes be considered harassment.

Harassment occurs when someone
makes unwelcome remarks or jokes about your race, religion, sex, age, disability or any other of the grounds of discrimination;
threatens or intimidates you because of your race, religion, sex, age, disability or any other of the grounds of discrimination;

Examples of Harassment
A colleague repeatedly makes fun of your hijab
A manager regularly makes inappropriate comments about your physical appearance
An employee threatens your safety following a heated discussion

I narrowed it down to the verbal/non-physical components.

Krimera wrote:Let me check the Canadian Human Rights Commission for an example.

Harassment is a form of discrimination. It includes any unwanted physical or verbal behaviour that offends or humiliates you. Generally, harassment is a behaviour that persists over time. Serious one-time incidents can also sometimes be considered harassment.

Harassment occurs when someone
makes unwelcome remarks or jokes about your race, religion, sex, age, disability or any other of the grounds of discrimination;
threatens or intimidates you because of your race, religion, sex, age, disability or any other of the grounds of discrimination;
makes unwelcome physical contact with you, such as touching, patting, or pinching.

Examples of Harassment
A colleague repeatedly makes fun of your hijab
A manager regularly makes inappropriate comments about your physical appearance
An employee threatens your safety following a heated discussion
A supervisor rubs your shoulders despite your repeated objections

Seems reasonable enough.

Condaian

Krimera wrote:Ah, then all they need to do now is to endorse Cybran as they are the Lt.Gov

Done and done

Hello everyone. In accordance with the provisions of the constitution, I will be opening the ballots for the Assembly of Regions House of Delegates, as directed by the Minister of Justice. I encourage everyone to vote in this election, as this is important to the functioning of our democracy.

Hallo zusammen. In Übereinstimmung mit den Bestimmungen der Verfassung eröffne ich auf Anweisung des Justizministers die Stimmzettel für das Delegiertenhaus der Versammlung der Regionen. Ich ermutige alle, an dieser Wahl teilzunehmen, denn dies ist wichtig für das Funktionieren unserer Demokratie.

BALLOTS:

[EN]: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfafz3Rhi1lV3M3lRepiy6v1oYsvPV-YXexVfFCgKcU9wAyFA/viewform?usp=sf_link
[DE]: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe5H1G_gDfBKbX6j3IbRHA8kPaNo9hGBpfLyye1GhAJPj46ew/viewform?usp=sf_link

Ionalands wrote:
Seems reasonable enough.

I see nothing in there that mentions political ideologies. Also, if I was a Nazi-supporter, this only would apply if I, in an Out-Of-Character context, would degrade, joke, or physically attack you in those specified-- most specifically, when it is done multiple times.

Political ideologies shouldn't need to be banned because someone is hurting your feelings. We should punish the person that is attacking you.

Condaian

Scalesburg wrote:I see nothing in there that mentions political ideologies. Also, if I was a Nazi-supporter, this only would apply if I, in an Out-Of-Character context, would degrade, joke, or physically attack you in those specified-- most specifically, when it is done multiple times.

Political ideologies shouldn't need to be banned because someone is hurting your feelings. We should punish the person that is attacking you.

Serious one time incidents can also be considered harassment.

Condaian

I have recieved some information that is disturbing but nothing related to us being invaded. Address to region in a few hours.

New Nationale Einheit, Varzo, and Condaian

Krimera wrote:
Serious one time incidents can also be considered harassment.

Yes, but now what's considered "serious"?

If Varzo, for example, said he hated gays and didn't believe they should be a thing. And if I said the exact same thing (pretending I'm still the Nazi), then we both should be equally as punished. Varzo shouldn't get off easy because he isn't radical and vice versa.

So tell me, what is considered "serious"?

Also Varzo, I know you probably don't think that, I was just using you as a temporary example.

Scalesburg wrote:Yes, but now what's considered "serious"?

If Varzo, for example, said he hated gays and didn't believe they should be a thing. And if I said the exact same thing (pretending I'm still the Nazi), then we both should be equally as punished. Varzo shouldn't get off easy because he isn't radical and vice versa.

So tell me, what is considered "serious"?

Also Varzo, I know you probably don't think that, I was just using you as a temporary example.

As long it's his personal politics it won't be restricted. It's just don't push the envelope on that on other people in the region.

Odinburgh wrote:As long it's his personal politics it won't be restricted. It's just don't push the envelope on that on other people in the region.

Yeah, how about "No trolling" as policy on Discord too?

Because that is what this whole problem sounds like to me (even though I admit to skimming the 350 posts since I logged off yesterday).

Odinburgh, Hunzali, and Condaian

Gothic Vandelia wrote:Yeah, how about "No trolling" as policy on Discord too?

Because that is what this whole problem sounds like to me (even though I admit to skimming the 350 posts since I logged off yesterday).

Yes that too.

Region Address

The matter I like inform our region involves the allied region of India led by Hindu Mahasabha. They have started a new platform to unite the right across NS. Below is the information I was sent:

Currently, the unorganized community of Right Wing faces a threat from various communist and extreme-left groups and military groups. Acknowledging the fact, that there are few right-leaning nations on the platform, as compared to left-leaning, the organization shall protect the interests of these nations and regions.

Aim

NationStates Right Wing seeks to unite all Right-leaning nations, regions, organizations and political parties at one place to discuss common issues and form a community of like minded individuals.

How to enroll in NRW?

It is not compulsory for a region to officially appoint any representative to NRW. Interested members and political parties can contact us, to register themselves as a member of our community.

Is this a military group?

This is not a military group. It is only a community of like minded individuals, to discuss political ideas.

How will the organization function?

It will host regular meetings, on various common issues and ecourage healthy discussion among the members. The organization will also strive to voice the concers of Right Wing at the World Assembly. The organization will play an important role in encouraging Right Wing politics in different region and represent the community's collected opinions at different platforms.

How will it benefit the political parties?

Political Parties will have a chance to discuss strategies and advises from fellow members to promote Right Wing politics in their respective region. Also the organization will support and voice against and injustices done against any individual or group in any region, communicating to the regional government via their NRW representative. Political parties can ask for legal support from the organization during elections.

How will it benefit the individuals?

Individuals will have a chance to become NRW Ambassador to their region and represent our community in their respective region. Individuals will have to promote Right Wing politics in their region. Representatives will be allowed to host talk shows and various workshops to encourage political freedom in their region. Excellent representatives will also be awarded with promotion in the organization.

Can a region officially be a part of the organization?

We do not admit regions. We only admit individual nations and political parties. The organization is not a cluster of regions, rather it is a platform for individuals and party representatives to discuss NationStates issues.

Read factbook

As founder I will not submit our region join this cause of its fascist nature. There is just too much bs in the real world as it is including in the US between left and right wing factions that's simply pointless which does more harm than good. That be said though I am no fan of the right wing but for our region it's best not involve ourselves. This simply disturbs me as it comes from one of closest allies. Not something in good faith I can get on board with. Sorry but this request we say no. However if there are those in our region that wish to help please do through one of your own puppets without Novus Lucidum's official support. Thanks but I hope to remain allies despite this.

There should be Zero Tolerance when it comes to certain behaviors whether here or on Discord. An approved No Trolling asvisory must be set into place and guidelines posted so there shall not be any room for confusion.

Gothic Vandelia, Hunzali, Varzo, Krogis, and 1 otherCondaian

Well, what do we define "trolling" as? The image that birthed this incident was a satiracle image of which was largely ignored, but then was dug up in order to be a catalyst for this "movement."

All of the talk on restricting harassment and trolling concern me because the lack of it is making me assume the restrictions will be a lot more than just harassment and trolling.
The two examples I can think of are the image and Jesia's Chinaposting, the image being what Rilandse just described it as and I don't see how Jesia's China memes are much of an issue. There's not much need to bring up the issue between Ebengar and Jesia because that did result in a mute for Jesia showing that the rules are already in place and all of this is needless.
Jesia should probably be unmuted soon though.

New Nationale Einheit, Varzo, and Condaian

Cauva wrote:All of the talk on restricting harassment and trolling concern me because the lack of it is making me assume the restrictions will be a lot more than just harassment and trolling.
The two examples I can think of are the image and Jesia's Chinaposting, the image being what Rilandse just described it as and I don't see how Jesia's China memes are much of an issue. There's not much need to bring up the issue between Ebengar and Jesia because that did result in a mute for Jesia showing that the rules are already in place and all of this is needless.
Jesia should probably be unmuted soon though.

I haven't seen Jesia's china posting and the image.

Krogis wrote:I haven't seen Jesia's china posting and the image.

That's because its on the discord in the off-topic and off-topic-politics.

Cauva and Condaian

Krimera wrote:That's because its on the discord in the off-topic and off-topic-politics.

As it should be. Though wise to refrain to post offensive memes regarding to any particular country, race, gender, faith and so forth.

Condaian

Scalesburg wrote:I see nothing in there that mentions political ideologies. Also, if I was a Nazi-supporter, this only would apply if I, in an Out-Of-Character context, would degrade, joke, or physically attack you in those specified-- most specifically, when it is done multiple times.

Political ideologies shouldn't need to be banned because someone is hurting your feelings. We should punish the person that is attacking you.

I'm well aware it doesn't mention ideologies.

Have you not read what I've said?

Ionalands wrote:I'm well aware it doesn't mention ideologies.

Have you not read what I've said?

If you haven't said it I'm pretty sure Hunzali said it.

Condaian

The witch-hunting and immaturity in the politics channel by Jesia is what got him muted.

Cauva and Condaian

Scalesburg wrote:The witch-hunting and immaturity in the politics channel by Jesia is what got him muted.

Witch hunting? He was just trolling a bit, and I don't protest giving him a time out but let's not exaggerate.

Scalesburg wrote:The witch-hunting and immaturity in the politics channel by Jesia is what got him muted.

Witch hunting would way top serious and genuine for Jesia.

He got muted for purposefully trying to annoy Ebengar. It's that simple.

Cauva wrote:If you haven't said it I'm pretty sure Hunzali said it.

I'm sure he has, but I myself have been trying to meet in the middle where ideologies aren't specifically mentioned.

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