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Ammmericaaaa wrote:

And a boring life but I digress.

Also if people like Martin Luther king jr, Malcolm x and all these people didn’t go against the norm we’d be in a worse place

But it would be bettwr if people like Hitler or Mao didn't go against the norm

The free romanians wrote:

But it would be bettwr if people like Hitler or Mao didn't go against the norm

Issue was (for Hitler at least) that anti-semitism and German supremacy was the norm after WW1, which Hitler ended up embracing.

As for Mao, I don't know enough about him.

In any case, I guess the safer way to say it is "go against harmful norms."

Aina Kuokoa wrote:

Issue was (for Hitler at least) that anti-semitism and German supremacy was the norm after WW1, which Hitler ended up embracing.

As for Mao, I don't know enough about him.

In any case, I guess the safer way to say it is "go against harmful norms."

There was a clear difference between the norm ( prussian aristocracy) and national socialism
Anyways
What i want to say is that norms are not inherently bad and rebellion isn't good

Aina Kuokoa wrote:

Hence my emendation: "Go against the norms that are harmful to others."

Depends
Norms in criminal justice are good
Mine would be
Follow the norms in a virtuous way

Ammmericaaaa wrote:

Norms like: people who abuse children should be ostracized in society and punished

Are good. Norms like: murder short people
Are not

Then why are we talking about norms?

The free romanians wrote:

Then why are we talking about norms?

What are we talking about? This looks interesting. I love murdering short people.

I saw this photo of Bruno mars accepting a award from Taylor swift and the height difference 💀

I think this video is pretty interesting
https://youtu.be/WMIr63mkkqM?si=Xfk-RXCpcdOVb7Vk
(This is a video about the theory that trump wins the US elections)

Swiss Cheese Wheel wrote:

Wait, what? This happened in Libya?!? I didn't know. Also, I'm sorry for your losses.

After the assassination (and highly illegal) killing of Muammar Gaddafi by United States aided groups, the USA leading a 13 country coalition with the likes of Turkey and United Kingdom, bombing Libya into the stone age from 2011 to 2018, with humanitarian aid such as food, medicine and healthcare being denied to most people after the Coalition bombed majority of our water dams and hydroelectric plants that gave us food, electricity and water. Barack Obama used a disproportionate and highly illegal drone bombing campaign in 2014 aswell. Many Libyans were forced to flee into Mediterranean countries near them or away across the sea to Spain, Greece, Turkey, Albania, France, Italy.

Libya's crime to be being bombed so badly that it will take until the 2060s to rebuild the country to 2010 prosperity levels? Not selling oil by the Dollar.

Swiss Cheese Wheel wrote:

By "all", it means "white Americans that originated from western Europe". It's always meant that.

If that isn't true for America since 1776 to around 1960s it's been that way. It's still going on now I think.

Volkstaat Bayern wrote:

After the assassination (and highly illegal) killing of Muammar Gaddafi by United States aided groups, the USA leading a 13 country coalition with the likes of Turkey and United Kingdom, bombing Libya into the stone age from 2011 to 2018, with humanitarian aid such as food, medicine and healthcare being denied to most people after the Coalition bombed majority of our water dams and hydroelectric plants that gave us food, electricity and water. Barack Obama used a disproportionate and highly illegal drone bombing campaign in 2014 aswell. Many Libyans were forced to flee into Mediterranean countries near them or away across the sea to Spain, Greece, Turkey, Albania, France, Italy.

Libya's crime to be being bombed so badly that it will take until the 2060s to rebuild the country to 2010 prosperity levels? Not selling oil by the Dollar.

I have Libyan roots and I really hope the best for the Libyan nation and the Libyan people. (and all other nations that had to go through the Americans)

Imperial Cecilia wrote:

When the Declaration of Independence stated that all men have certain unalienable rights, they meant that the leader or government of a nation cannot suppress those rights; it never stated that the government will try everything it can to provide those rights to people, as long as they do not get in the way. If it is a person or group that prevents another person or group from attaining those rights, it is not necessarily the responsibility of the government to go against whoever is attempting to restrain another from gaining those certain rights.

I am not a history expert, so please correct m e if I am wrong

A lovely little loophole. You just say, "Oh yeah, everyone deserves that, but we never said that we're gonna give it to them..."

Septentrea wrote:

I remember when Hillary Clinton in an interview. She thought the cameras were off and she was laughing about Libya and their civil war.

When asked by a reporter what she thought about Gaddafi and Libya, she said,

"We came. We saw. He died! Hahahaha!"

There is no American family that angers me to my core than the Clintons. I see sometimes people make fun of Mitt Romney, honestly he should have won 2012.

As for McCain, well, Obama was just the worse version of him, as he bombed my country just as harder, if not worse than 2011. If Gaddafi was a "dictator" then he was the best one, he gave us free running water, electricity, educated people, irrigated lands, he brought us to never seen levels of prosperity up to the 2010s.

I wi forever remember Hillary and people like her laughing at malnourished, suffering, war torn people bombed by your own country. And I certainly hope for nothing good for them.