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Mushmellow wrote:Wazzzzza everyone!

Welcome back!

New gamna

Kolm wrote:I very much agree.

I'm now a Libertarian Socialist, so sorry for bullying you about socialism Ada lol. It's honestly our best option after the horrors of post-modern capitalist scum. Eat the rich and peg all men 2020.

libertarian socialist :(

Ada empire wrote:libertarian socialist :(

Either libsoc or something similar. Are you something different?

Ada empire

Kolm wrote:Either libsoc or something similar. Are you something different?

short answer: I am a Maoist

long answer: I support the dominance of labor over capital, and eventually the abolition of capital. I do not necessarily disapprove of the zapatistas, i take no issue with the republicans in the spanish civilwar, however, i believe history has shown us that the military strategy and political line of Marxism-Leninism, (and on into the 21st century, Marxism-Leninism-Maoism), has managed to win over millions of more hearts and minds, and capture significantly more territory than the libertarian socialists, democratic con-federalists, or anarchists, or zapatistas.

take a look at the territorial gains of the CPI (maoist), CPC (in the Philippines), TKP-ML, and the PCP (Peru):

Indian Maoists: https://images.forbes.com/media/magazines/forbes/2010/0510/0421_p146-india-map_398x505.jpg
Filipino Maoists: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Communist_hotspots_in_the_Philippines.png/220px-Communist_hotspots_in_the_Philippines.png
Turkish Maoists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maoist_insurgency_in_Turkey (i could not find a map)
and
Peruvian Maoists: https://s.pngkit.com/png/small/526-5268613_communist-party-of-peru-shining-path-territory.png

as compared to the territory of Rojava after nearly a decade and the Zapatistas after a few decades.

Kolm wrote:Welcome back!

So what I miss? Who runs this region now? Update me!

Ada empire wrote:short answer: I am a Maoist

long answer: I support the dominance of labor over capital, and eventually the abolition of capital. I do not necessarily disapprove of the zapatistas, i take no issue with the republicans in the spanish civilwar, however, i believe history has shown us that the military strategy and political line of Marxism-Leninism, (and on into the 21st century, Marxism-Leninism-Maoism), has managed to win over millions of more hearts and minds, and capture significantly more territory than the libertarian socialists, democratic con-federalists, or anarchists, or zapatistas.

take a look at the territorial gains of the CPI (maoist), CPC (in the Philippines), TKP-ML, and the PCP (Peru):

Indian Maoists: https://images.forbes.com/media/magazines/forbes/2010/0510/0421_p146-india-map_398x505.jpg
Filipino Maoists: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Communist_hotspots_in_the_Philippines.png/220px-Communist_hotspots_in_the_Philippines.png
Turkish Maoists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maoist_insurgency_in_Turkey (i could not find a map)
and
Peruvian Maoists: https://s.pngkit.com/png/small/526-5268613_communist-party-of-peru-shining-path-territory.png

as compared to the territory of Rojava after nearly a decade and the Zapatistas after a few decades.

While that is true, the state eventually leads to an oppressive system and so a smaller state is necessary. The people's individual freedoms matter more than the state. The people are the nation, not the government, so the people should be in charge, not a couple of elitists. Libertarian socialism gives people much more freedom than Maoism or Leninism. However, one of the biggest criticisms (and rightly so) of libertarian socialism is that it has weak defense and so can be run over easily, which I agree with. That's why personally I'd rather have something closer to democratic socialism or market socialism because I doubt America will ever adhere to my ideology. I'm willing to concede some of my beliefs so that America can actually get away from the far right-wing scum that rules it. I just want the fascist Trump out of office, along with his anti-science cronies.

Mushmellow wrote:So what I miss? Who runs this region now? Update me!

We've moved to the Pentarch system, with 5 nations in charge. New Gamna's the new WA Delegate, and we're going along pretty well.

New gamna

Kolm wrote:While that is true, the state eventually leads to an oppressive system and so a smaller state is necessary. The people's individual freedoms matter more than the state. The people are the nation, not the government, so the people should be in charge, not a couple of elitists. Libertarian socialism gives people much more freedom than Maoism or Leninism. However, one of the biggest criticisms (and rightly so) of libertarian socialism is that it has weak defense and so can be run over easily, which I agree with. That's why personally I'd rather have something closer to democratic socialism or market socialism because I doubt America will ever adhere to my ideology. I'm willing to concede some of my beliefs so that America can actually get away from the far right-wing scum that rules it. I just want the fascist Trump out of office, along with his anti-science cronies.

is there a better platform we can discuss this on?

Ada empire wrote:is there a better platform we can discuss this on?

We could use Discord if you want.

Kolm wrote:While that is true, the state eventually leads to an oppressive system and so a smaller state is necessary. The people's individual freedoms matter more than the state. The people are the nation, not the government, so the people should be in charge, not a couple of elitists. Libertarian socialism gives people much more freedom than Maoism or Leninism. However, one of the biggest criticisms (and rightly so) of libertarian socialism is that it has weak defense and so can be run over easily, which I agree with. That's why personally I'd rather have something closer to democratic socialism or market socialism because I doubt America will ever adhere to my ideology. I'm willing to concede some of my beliefs so that America can actually get away from the far right-wing scum that rules it. I just want the fascist Trump out of office, along with his anti-science cronies.

That's the biggest concern with ALL Libertarianism. However, in my opinion, we should have Militias to guard the homeland. The US Army should only exist when we need an army, AKA if a new Hitler-like character rears his ugly head. And before someone says "Well, Trump is-" Trust me, Trump is a Joke in comparison to the danger Hitler posed. There's still a chance he'll say something else, extra dumb, and Rioters may pull him out of the White House by force. He almost succeeded in that several times now. Hitler was a Despot with Charisma. Trump is just a Despot that Preys on the Stupid and the Weak.

Pheonix juz wrote:That's the biggest concern with ALL Libertarianism. However, in my opinion, we should have Militias to guard the homeland. The US Army should only exist when we need an army, AKA if a new Hitler-like character rears his ugly head. And before someone says "Well, Trump is-" Trust me, Trump is a Joke in comparison to the danger Hitler posed. There's still a chance he'll say something else, extra dumb, and Rioters may pull him out of the White House by force. He almost succeeded in that several times now. Hitler was a Despot with Charisma. Trump is just a Despot that Preys on the Stupid and the Weak.

Except he supports the idea of his lunatic supporters shooting protesters, so that isn't fun. He also signed that transphobic bill recently, so... yay...

Pheonix juz

Kolm wrote:Except he supports the idea of his lunatic supporters shooting protesters, so that isn't fun. He also signed that transphobic bill recently, so... yay...

Just remember this, if push comes to shove, and it really does boil down to Us Vs Them(They'll be the ones to make that happen, if anyone), General Mattias has pretty much said, the US Military is on the side of the People. If his followers rise up, they WILL be slapped down. There's more Non-Fringe Lunatic Americans than Trump Supporters.

You'll also find those with the biggest mouths are also the first to drop their flag and run when it all hits the fan.

Kolm and New gamna

I would like to announce: I've been watching a TON of One Piece. I'm wanting to upgrade our theme.

Recondia and Ada empire

Read all about it!
- Card Raiding in Rejected Times
- Read the diplomatic Cable
- The Loranian Times Issue 2 reveals NS's new law firm
- Pecking order revealed in Loranian Times Issue 1
- UP Cup in the UPBC chronicle
- Koem Kab's defeat was in the cards. Card News Edition 5
- Market crashes in Card News Edition 4
- TEP & XKI on the pull in Card News Edition 3
- War ongoing in New World Union Chronicle vol 2
- A laughing stock is revealed in the New World Union Chronicle vol 1
- You see U.C.E.O.T.W. Times Edition 8
- Weekend edition of NS Today - https://nationstates.news/weekend-edition-june-28-2020/3060/
- Get your Daily Line and place a sports bet

Get involved!
- It's hypnotic! Choose your own adventure.
- Cast your vote in your Eligible Polls
- Craps! The Sands turns three!

Whew, I've been a bit busy recently. I just got back from camp about a week ago.

New gamna

Kolm wrote:Whew, I've been a bit busy recently. I just got back from camp about a week ago.

Camp... Aren't u in lockdown

New gamna wrote:Camp... Aren't u in lockdown

It's a camp for Scouts. They had restrictions on where you could go, how many people could be in a tent, etc. We even had to sleep alone in our tents.

New gamna

Kolm wrote:It's a camp for Scouts. They had restrictions on where you could go, how many people could be in a tent, etc. We even had to sleep alone in our tents.

Ah... We cancelled all our cadet force camps.

I've made my nation an empire

New gamna wrote:I've made my nation an empire

Imperial Scum! Death to the Empire! All Hail Ulfric Stormcloak!

Pheonix juz wrote:Imperial Scum! Death to the Empire! All Hail Ulfric Stormcloak!

The true high king

Pheonix juz wrote:Imperial Scum! Death to the Empire! All Hail Ulfric Stormcloak!

Honestly I only sided with the Imperials though.

Pheonix juz

New gamna wrote:Honestly I only sided with the Imperials though.

For the most part, so do I. Ulfric is actually a Thalmor Spy. His Dossier in their Embassy says as much. So he talks a big game, but is actually his own enemy.

New gamna

Pheonix juz wrote:For the most part, so do I. Ulfric is actually a Thalmor Spy. His Dossier in their Embassy says as much. So he talks a big game, but is actually his own enemy.

Nah its all a plot to cripple the empire so the Altmer can take over. Also I only go on genocides in Windhelm

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