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It’s ok
Nogodia and Pamia
I do not understand what these people were hoping to gain when storming the capital building, but I know that whatever they wanted they are not getting it. I do not understand why Trump would go this far as to tell people to storm the capital building. He knows he lost the election, but he won’t admit it because it means admitting a loss which we know that’s not something Trump is not capable of. I see it as pathetic, unnecessary and damaging to the United States’ reputation. Trump has turned half of his party against him thanks to this. He served his term, he lost in the re-election, he needs to get over it before he turns everyone else against him.
Mathorn, Missisquoi, Nogodia, The Socialist Republic of Saian, and 1 otherAner
Unfortunately some people did. One person sadly passed :(
Missisquoi, Nogodia, Valensi, and Norcria
“Now does he feel his title
Hang loose about him, like a giant’s robe
Upon a dwarfish thief.”
- William Shakespeare, Macbeth
Mathorn, Nogodia, The Socialist Republic of Saian, Norcria, and 1 otherAner
Honestly, I cannot believe what I saw yesterday. If what happened in America, that has occurred over the past few months since the November election - or even since the 2016 election, occurred in a third world nation, the entire world would be calling it a coup. And that is what is going on, the sitting US president just attempted to incite a coup to overturn a fair, and fully-legal, election because he can't admit he lost.
What. The. Hell.
Missisquoi, Nogodia, and Norcria
It was a coup, an attempted coup. Major news outlets in the US are beginning to use that word and, in an encouraging sign, the list of prominent people who have correctly described the events as "insurrection" now includes Sen. Mitch McConnell, Sen. (and former Republican presidential candidate) Mitt Romney, former President George W. Bush and many others.
This coup attempt was instigated, incited and celebrated by none other than the current President of the United States.
It was entirely predictable, and the logical outcome of the last five years of his lies, self-aggrandizement, corruption and narcissistic behavior.
Who the hell does Trump think he is? Literally starting a coup because he lost the election, that’s not what a good president would do. A good President would simply accept the fact that they lost and move on, but not Trump. He is the reason why America is a joke now.
Mathorn, Missisquoi, Nogodia, and Darmapalha
To call it a coup is incredibly overdramatic, it was terribly brash and irresponsible of those that did it.
Nogodia, Norcria, and Darmapalha
What wouldst thou call it?
It was most definitely an attempt to forcibly detain government officials, to block the conduct of lawful government functions to prevent official certification of the results of the presidential election; to prevent the duly elected next President and Vice-President from being confirmed, all so that the current occupant of that office might unlawfully perpetuate his rule despite the provisions of law and the Constitution. What is that, if not a coup attempt?
An unlawful break-in.
If a coup d'etat was truly the intent of a bunch of undisciplined partially armed red necks, then it was a poor attempt at best.
But let's not exaggerate events as to do so is both irrational and passionate.
Nogodia and Norcria
Imagine if those who supported remaining in the EU had stormed Parliament whilst it was in session debating the various Brexit bills. Imagine if Labour supporters stormed up Downing Street because they didn't like the 2019 election result. Imagine if anti-monarchists stormed into Buckingham Palace because they did not support the monarchy.
Now imagine if any of these three events occurred and Parliament, or Downing Sreet, or Buckingham Palace were looted, desecrated and stole from. Now imagine if Parliament was in the middle of a debate and had to be suspended, or if the Queen was in the process of signing into law an Act of Parliament, but was stopped by a mob.
You state "Let's not exaggerate events as to do so is both irrational and passionate."
Trump encouraged his supporters to "fight like hell" to "take back our country", and to march towards the Capitol. Trump's supporters subsequently stormed the Capitol building, during the Electoral College vote count - a count to uphold and certify the democratic will of the American people. IED's were also found.
Now imagine if these supporters had managed to burn the electoral college votes - which they cold have well done without the quick actions of the staff of the Senate. Imagine if they took members of congress as hostages - which could have well of happened. Imagine of the IED's had gone off and blown a hole in the Capitol - which again, was a possibility.
If anyone should take a step back - it should be yourself. If you don't understand the gravity of what happened, or the potential of what could have occurred, then I am truly sorry that your political viewpoints have clouded your vision of reality.
At the very least, this was a mob incited by the sitting US President attempting to overturn the democratic will of the American people, who were allowed to storm the US Capitol due to a monumental security failure.
Missisquoi, Nogodia, Norcria, and Aner
A string of hypotheticals has not convinced me that the attack on the Capitol was an attempted Coup d'etat - Which is still a rather extreme take on the event.
Nobody is doubting that Trump had a part to play in riling up the crowd and for that he should be duly criticised - but neither is he some puppet master who can control events completely and whether he condoned everything that happened is a matter of debate and not a forgone conclusion.
Now, either you misread what I've written innocently as such or like a possessed ideologue have misinterpreted what I've written and have taken it as a direct threat to your political narrative given the aggression of your response.
Nogodia and Norcria
You just stated that; "Nobody is doubting that Trump had a part to play in riling up the crowd".
A sitting US President, regardless of political viewpoints, should in no way be connected with a mob that stormed the US Capitol.
The fact that you stated; "Whether he condoned everything that happened is a matter of debate and not a forgone conclusion", shows everything you need to know about Trump's actions throughout his presidency.
Nogodia, Norcria, and Aner
I said that he should be duly criticised for his part.
Nogodia and Norcria
He is the President of the United States, leader of the most powerful democracy in the world. He has tarnished the US's democratic reputation abroad. Merely "Criticsing" him does not go far enough.
Nogodia, Norcria, and Darmapalha
You just criticised him, well done. If anything you've proven your own irrationality.
Orange you glad...well...maybe not.
Members of the 1st Foot Guards found themselves in the nearby town of Mataro after growing bored of residing in Barcelona. Captain Albert Kleiner was supervising the men when they encountered French troops passing through the town after arriving in Spain. The troops mingled waringly among each other in a market place. Some of them snarled, others embraced however at one orange stand soldiers broke out in argument. The origin of the argument is disputed in report from multiple members. Some reports claimed the 'French Savages' began eating the woman at the stand and they were acting in self defence others claimed it was over the last orange, regardless a fight erupted shortly after. It became more of a brawl than a fight quickly the Captain found himself raising his gun and firing before issuing orders for the departure of the troops. No men reportedly died however bruises were plenty. General Frederick has issued orders for further fortification of the town of Barcelona as a result of the mixed reports.
Blood thirst at the Border
The troops having now waited for the conference in Moscow which seems to never be coming have found themselves crossing the border at times engaging in light raiding to satisfy themselves. The commanders issue no objection as they too have grown tired. Prince Lenert I has been sent to the Eastern Front to oversee the troops there and perhaps raise morale as they wait for the start of the conference nevermind the results.
Mathorn, Nogodia, The Socialist Republic of Saian, Pamia, and 2 othersNorcria, and Kleiner polenski
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