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Nice poll Your Imaginary Friend! The image of my leader made me smile.

Leonism wrote:From a medical point of view I'd disagree. The brain is insofar different from a machine in that it can modify itself (new synapses form all the time according to its needs, mainly depending on your experiences in life and reflecting and facilitating learning).

I've been trying to respond multiple times to this, but NationStates refuses to post from my phone >:(
Finally had to resign and wait until I could get back to my PC.

I know little in the realm of biology, but I would argue that in the future, AI would be capable of rendering its past experiences to generate its own, new programming. The concept of “technological singularity” is often hypothesized to be the result of an AI capable of constant self-improvement and modification. While there’s no guarantee that the AI will display emotion, it should certainly understand enough human concepts to become what we consider sentient. I’m not trying to say the physical features of a robot and humans are related, but rather how both of their inner components can result in very similar behavior.

From a medical point of view, I think you are completely correct.

I've decided to modernise the LazMap Mzeusia. I can write my own Ancient Mzeusia RP not on the map. I'll RP the modernisation at some point.

Mzeusia wrote:I've decided to modernise the LazMap Mzeusia. I can write my own Ancient Mzeusia RP not on the map. I'll RP the modernisation at some point.

While I enjoyed reading about Ancient Mzeusia very much, I nevertheless welcome this decision as it makes interaction with Mzeusia much easier and more plausible in map RP.

Kappan wrote:I've been trying to respond multiple times to this, but NationStates refuses to post from my phone >:(
Finally had to resign and wait until I could get back to my PC.

I know little in the realm of biology, but I would argue that in the future, AI would be capable of rendering its past experiences to generate its own, new programming. The concept of “technological singularity” is often hypothesized to be the result of an AI capable of constant self-improvement and modification. While there’s no guarantee that the AI will display emotion, it should certainly understand enough human concepts to become what we consider sentient. I’m not trying to say the physical features of a robot and humans are related, but rather how both of their inner components can result in very similar behavior.

From a medical point of view, I think you are completely correct.

A very good post. Once AI reaches this point where it can modify itself (maybe not physically but in its programming) it should be capable of learning in the human way and thus display a hallmark of sentience.

This is more of a philosophical topic though, and thus not my area of expertise. I don't even know what the formal definition of sentience is.

Tubbius is awake, saggy, and baggy as He plumps huffily-puffily into His egg-shaped chair at His desk. He has work to do before He can enjoy His Five Breakfasts for the morning, so He wheezes a miserable mmph. In an attempt to bring some pleasure and life to His Bulbousness, Mrs. Tubbius toddles over and gently hands Him a sleeping Sister Tubbius to hold, then stands nearby, cradling Her belly and the almost three months along MORE babies within. Smile, She hrms, adding with a kiss to His cheek that You'll be a father again soon enough!

Loftegen 2 wrote:Oh, a splitter of prions, eh?

That's more a biochemical thing than a quantum physics. Funny I indirectly had to study a way to deal with some of the consequences of the aftermaths of the BSE crises.

Leonism wrote:From a medical point of view I'd disagree. The brain is insofar different from a machine in that it can modify itself (new synapses form all the time according to its needs, mainly depending on your experiences in life and reflecting and facilitating learning).

That's true. But technically electronic systems can do it. Programmable gates arrays, and the copycats neural networks. The differences is of complexity. A neuron is so far more complex than anything humankind can manufacture yet.

With time, resources and research we may can create equivalent or superior of a human intelligence using others substrates. As for the discussion of robots, although the old mechanistic Cartesian conception of animals as a clockwork mechanisms, in a sense, it could be said that biological organisms could be considered robots in the sense that they follow a programming (genetic (DNA, epigenetic), cognitive (neural + memes), emergent properties of their populations and/or societies). And robots could be made to follow a programming.

Besides, let's consider the question with cyborgs. Biological organisms with electronic parts. At what point it is a being and when a robot? Do glasses count? knee implants? Prosthetic legs or arms? What if it a biological brain in a robotic body? And the reverse? Would it be consider a robot a electronic brain in a biological body? Or what about the Appleseed / Blade Runner, Will it be a a biological robot (bioroid) human being designed, enhanced grown in a vat a robot? (1) And what if we can minds resleeves in differents bodies (2) (at work a mainframe working in research, in holidays an organic for pleasure and in case of war a combat drone (3)? How it would affect them? (4).

(1) Since in-game my biological part of the population are this, is of certain importance to me.
(2) Actual issue
(3) Nearly inferred but no explicit in issues. It would be to wrecking of the atmosphere of present-near future setting of the game.
(4) Per Antonio Damasio research (Somatic marker hypothesis) it wouldn't be that easy.

Tubbius is now in need of a shower to start the day. It is time for much merry giggling and jiggling for His Rotundity, who is so ticklish as to find far too much enjoyment from a mere bath.

Loftegen 2 wrote:R.F. Hovarth AFB, Canton of Melindor, eastern Loftegen 2

Johann Schmeidt, LGA1, Leonism Luftwaffe, was tired, and looking forward to the weekend, when he and LGA2 Ludwig Meyer would get some down time after a very busy week. They had flown every day, putting the Viper BT.3 through its paces, including an exhilaratingly scary flight using the 'terrain follow' mode of the Viper's autopilot. They'd skimmed the waters of a nearby reservoir at nearly the speed of sound, first at 90 meters, then at a mind-blowing fifteen, before the plane pitched up to clear the next dam on the river. They'd also made a couple of simulated bomb runs against actual bridges and rail yards, and dropped an inert training bomb on the nearby range. An inert training atomic bomb.

Johann shuddered just a little. When they weren't flying they'd been doing strike planning with the rest of the pilots and WSO's of the 366th Bomb Squadron. In the main it was just like they did things back in the Imperium: pick a route to the target that let you avoid as many defenses as possible, and decide what you were going to do about the ones you couldn't avoid. It was just that pretty much every Loftie solution to such problems involved something with a nuclear warhead. It had been explained to Johann that a typical strike mission would see each Viper armed with two air-to-air missiles (200 ton yield warhead) and two short range attack missiles (50 kt warhead) on under wing hard points, with a gravity bomb (or two) of whatever yield was appropriate to the mission stowed in the Viper's internal bomb bay. Other load-outs were possible, of course.

Finally Col. Soammes, the commander of the 366th Bomb Wing, had addressed the whole group. "I've just got a memo about our role in Schedule," he said. "It seems that Orange's offensive and defensive capabilities will be equal to our own."

That drew a groan from the assembled officers, who knew that their job would be all the harder.

"With one exception," Soammes went on. "We're to work on tactics for attacking a high value Orange installation protected by a regional SAM battery, a local SAM battery, and a high powered laser that can fire anything from a one megawatt pulse every second to a ten megawatt pulse every ten seconds, without overheating."

That drew an even loader groan, and a sharp rebuke from the colonel, "Knock it off! You're professionals, not kindergardeners. The stats of this laser weapon haven't been finalized yet, and neither has its location. When we have more detailed information, then you can start crying."

Hovarth AFB, Canton of Melindor, East Loftegen
Johann Schmeidt and Ludwig Meyer were discussing the recent briefing by Colonel Soammes. "It sounds like a suicide mission", Ludwig remarked. "A powerful ground-based Laser with a high rate of fire...possibly able to shoot down incoming missiles...how would we attack such a target?'

"You know what worries me even more?", Johann interjected, "I think the fictional country of Orange is a stand-in for us, the Imperium. Who else does Loftegen deal with that has access to military lasers and is otherwise on the same level of technology?". Johann looked around, as if searching the walls of their room for listening devices.

"Nah! You are paranoid!", Ludwig disagreed. "These are all nice people. Great people even! They love freedom, democracy. They want to be independent. They are less stuffy than our people...I like it here. And think of it, they are showing us all their cool stuff, even training us how to operate their planes. Would they do that if they had any hostile intentions?"

"You have a point", Johann nodded, still looking sceptical.
"Of course! And you know what, these are industrious people as well. I bet they would sell Vipers to the Luftwaffe, for a decent price. We really should make an official recommendation to the General Staff. These aircraft are awesome!" Ludwig smiled enthusiastically.

"Another point taken", Johann said. "I too can't wait for our next flight..."

Kappan wrote:Christian metal has been popular in Kappan ever since its invention. Hymns take the top spot, however, which can be heard in countless variations in the many churches that dot the country.

In all honesty and seriousness, Skillet is a guilty pleasure of mine.

Leonism wrote:A very good post. Once AI reaches this point where it can modify itself (maybe not physically but in its programming) it should be capable of learning in the human way and thus display a hallmark of sentience.

This is more of a philosophical topic though, and thus not my area of expertise. I don't even know what the formal definition of sentience is.

Electronic systems are already capable of modifying and reprogramming themselves-they can't physically grow more transistors, of course, but they are entirely capable of changing their own memory and therefore their programming. It's actually part of the definition of a Turing Machine.

Personally, I think the difference lies in desire; a creature wants things, different things as time passes. A machine does not want. But then again, just because something is not a machine does not make it a person.

Leonism wrote:From a medical point of view I'd disagree. The brain is insofar different from a machine in that it can modify itself (new synapses form all the time according to its needs, mainly depending on your experiences in life and reflecting and facilitating learning).

Well, there are very few things stopping AI from modifying its own code

I couldn't help to notice but where's your hydroflask? Huh that's weird and I oop sksksk

Kemaharajaan Majapahit wrote:I couldn't help to notice but where's your hydroflask? Huh that's weird and I oop sksksk

Do we have a mechanic in the house? Something broke.

Kappan wrote:I've been trying to respond multiple times to this, but NationStates refuses to post from my phone >:(
Finally had to resign and wait until I could get back to my PC.

I know little in the realm of biology, but I would argue that in the future, AI would be capable of rendering its past experiences to generate its own, new programming. The concept of “technological singularity” is often hypothesized to be the result of an AI capable of constant self-improvement and modification. While there’s no guarantee that the AI will display emotion, it should certainly understand enough human concepts to become what we consider sentient. I’m not trying to say the physical features of a robot and humans are related, but rather how both of their inner components can result in very similar behavior.

From a medical point of view, I think you are completely correct.

Elon Musk knows best about AI, and he's cute lol <3

Huh-huh! Scientific advancement and intelligence are going up and up!

The Silicon States wrote:Huh-huh! Scientific advancement and intelligence are going up and up!

Wish I could say the same, sis. :/

It seems I have hit a ceiling I need to break through before becoming one of the high-echalon intelligent people

And I just got my first chain issue! It's "The enemy within"!

Uhh.... Hi, guys.

Needless to say, my crusade against Lily failed because they kinda calmed down by themselves. Still, #ThirtiethOfJuneNeverForget

Mind if I crash here for a while?

The Platinum States wrote:Uhh.... Hi, guys.

Needless to say, my crusade against Lily failed because they kinda calmed down by themselves. Still, #ThirtiethOfJuneNeverForget

Mind if I crash here for a while?

Tubbius has a spare, plush, Tubbian couch donated. Mind the massive pillows.

I was thinking about NationStates lore and how so many massive nations can interact with each other and I came to the conclusion that we must be on a ringworld.
Probably not the first one to think that but a ringworld or Niven Ring could theoretically support many trillions of individuals

https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/deep-space/a11183/could-we-build-a-ringworld-17166651/

I loved reading the RMB today lol! Y'all are having cute and snarky friendly conversations right alongside roleplay and like a deep AI rights debate that instigates paragraphs of argument. x)

This kind of variety makes me feel like we're super developed or smthn and awesome! <3

The Sigometh Dynasty wrote:I was thinking about NationStates lore and how so many massive nations can interact with each other and I came to the conclusion that we must be on a ringworld.
Probably not the first one to think that but a ringworld or Niven Ring could theoretically support many trillions of individuals

https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/deep-space/a11183/could-we-build-a-ringworld-17166651/

And the different regions are just colloquial names for the various sections, and nations are probably all within modular spaces within each of these ring sections. This must be how whole nations are capable of uprooting themselves and travelling between disparate regions!

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Hiya all, I have a question, whi is the cap for endorsements 120?
And I also want to let you know that I just downloaded the Minecraft Demo and I'm learning how to play to join you on the server (no idea how it all works yet T_T but soon), I'll let you know. And I'm half way on endorsing everyone. And... yeah I really like you guys and gals =^-^=

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