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Lagrodia wrote:If Biden wins, the GOP needs to keep the Senate by a few seats, or else we’ll end up with Ginsburg replaced by... Ginsburg.

Of course, that combination would be very obstructionist. Executive power will continue to expand. The box is already open. There is no getting it closed again.

Divided power causes executive power expansion. It doesn’t curb it.

I pretty much agree on all three points. Harris has already been entirely explicit about her intentions to straight-up ignore Congress and play Queen if they don't cater to her whims, and I doubt Biden is going to have much principle to not do the same thing at perhaps a moderately lower level. There is no good scenario realistically available, just less bad, and ultimately I'll take some Presidential abuses of power that can at least theoretically be reversed, even if setting bad precedent, over a court-packing and filibuster-busting that there is almost certainly no going back from.

But this is the worst timeline, after all, so we'll probably end up getting all three.

Roborian wrote:Just out of curiosity, for those in the region who do not intend to vote for either Trump or Biden (The Catholic State of Eire, Aawia, Phydios, or anyone else), assuming that we're not thinking a third-party candidate is actually going to win, what kind of outcome are you hoping for, if not necessarily voting for, in 2020?

I honestly can't hope for any likely outcome. In 2016, I was not excited to see Trump win, but I was excited to see Hillary lose. But in the state we're in, I have started to wonder whether a Biden presidency would be worse (overall) than another 4 years of Trump. Certainly it would be awful in some ways; for example, Biden/Harris seem to support no abortion-related policy that pro-lifers would support, not even care for infants born alive after a botched abortion. But Trump's running under the slogan of "Keep America Great!", which really sticks in my throat. Does he really think that we are great right now? The country's growing ever more divided, and Trump is egging it on with his foolish rhetoric. If he gets another term, he might still do some good- but how much? And how much bad would he do in the meantime? On the other hand, is Biden/Harris going to unite the country in any way either? I don't think so. And the COVID-19 crisis might be the perfect opportunity for Biden to try things like the single-payer healthcare system that blew up in Vermont and bleeds money in countries like the UK as well. People are more open to big government when they're struggling- see the Depression and FDR's New Deal.

I can't be excited about any likely outcome this year.

Phydios wrote:I honestly can't hope for any likely outcome. In 2016, I was not excited to see Trump win, but I was excited to see Hillary lose. But in the state we're in, I have started to wonder whether a Biden presidency would be worse (overall) than another 4 years of Trump. Certainly it would be awful in some ways; for example, Biden/Harris seem to support no abortion-related policy that pro-lifers would support, not even care for infants born alive after a botched abortion. But Trump's running under the slogan of "Keep America Great!", which really sticks in my throat. Does he really think that we are great right now? The country's growing ever more divided, and Trump is egging it on with his foolish rhetoric. If he gets another term, he might still do some good- but how much? And how much bad would he do in the meantime? On the other hand, is Biden/Harris going to unite the country in any way either? I don't think so. And the COVID-19 crisis might be the perfect opportunity for Biden to try things like the single-payer healthcare system that blew up in Vermont and bleeds money in countries like the UK as well. People are more open to big government when they're struggling- see the Depression and FDR's New Deal.

I can't be excited about any likely outcome this year.

My thought process on a Trump election going into 2016, which frankly still pretty much applies today, was that whether it was worth it would, morbidly, depend on the number of SCOTUS justices who died. Basically, if only Scalia, then not worth it, if one death, maybe worth it, if two or more, very likely worth it. We ended up with only Scalia (I suppose you could give partial credit to Kennedy retiring, but partial at best), and I think with that, it was not worth it, not worth the major losses in Congress and in state legislatures nationwide, even if one discounts long-term damage to public opinion of the GOP.

It's still kind of hard to tell what exactly a second Trump term would look like, whether it would be similar to 17-20, whether being freed up from reelection concerns would change things significantly, or just whether having a consistently Democratic House (or possibly both chambers) would mean a shift. I do think it is possible that a second-term Trump is a softer or less divisive one-but I don't think it's likely, at all. You rarely see unilateral disarmament in politics in these days, and since Trump almost sure to continue to be under constant attack by Democrats and the media, I doubt he has the discipline or temperament not to continue to strike back. The ideal outcome would be that another loss in 2020 shakes up the Democrats and they push back against their growing radicalism, attempt to move more towards the center, and that a more normalized Trump is softened by not having to constantly be on the warpath, and we get a cooling-off of partisanship. I don't think it's impossible, but I don't think it's going to happen, especially since a Trump win is likely to be close and I fully expect to see the election results contested with or without evidence.

I used to think that Biden actually could be something of a unifier, but I think we've seen that beyond any questions of competency, he has certainly been more openly bellicose and even volatile, too many almost Trumpian aggressive tendencies. If he really was aiming for a reconciliation agenda, I would have expected to see someone like Amy Klobuchar picked, I could get some hope out of that. Harris sends a different signal in two ways, not just ideologically, but that he chose the person who painted him as a racist makes me think that he or his handlers are being driven far more by partisan animosity than anything else. I still think it is within the realm of possibility that a Biden administration is a calming one, especially with a GOP Senate, VPs are often marginalized after all, and maybe he really is just trying to get rid of Trump and then ease back, but I wouldn't count on it. There is obviously going to be resistance in a GOP Senate, Biden is going to get mad and egged on by media and his party, and we'll be hammer-and-tongs soon enough. With a full majority I doubt it will matter what Biden thinks, the Democrats have always been better at aggressive uses of power than Republicans and there is far too much pressure for them to not take full advantage of the combination of a crisis and political power to go big and go radical.

That's a longwinded way of saying that I'm pretty much of the same mind as you, there is no realistic outcome that would really please me or make me feel any real optimism going forward. Our slate of possibility ranges from outcomes that are broadly bad, to outcomes that may well lead to outright partisan violence over or at some point in the next four years.

Roborian wrote:Just out of curiosity, for those in the region who do not intend to vote for either Trump or Biden (The Catholic State of Eire, Aawia, Phydios, or anyone else), assuming that we're not thinking a third-party candidate is actually going to win, what kind of outcome are you hoping for, if not necessarily voting for, in 2020?

My personal preference would be a moderate Biden victory for the Presidency and the GOP holding onto the Senate (if it's a fantasy, taking the House too, but that's not going to happen.) It's not that I don't think that Biden would not be harmful simply with executive power, but divided government ought to curb the worst excesses and the ability to court-pack or kill the filibuster, while the GOP can (hopefully) start to re-right itself post-Trump and pick up some ground in the 2022 midterms to hopefully set up a better chance for a better candidate in 2024.

Unfortunately I don't think that's very likely, the Presidential and Senate races are so closely tied now that it's highly unlikely that the GOP keeps the Senate if Biden wins anything more than a narrow victory, and a narrow victory is probably going to lead to a contested election. I am still of the mind that a Trump win would be better on purely policy grounds, but very likely not worth the long-term damage, especially since the House is very likely to remain Democrat-controlled regardless.

Unfortunately really a 'best of the bad options' kind of election as I see it.

As a non-American my only goal with voting for a third party would be to see an increased share of third party votes that would lead to broader representation in either the senate or the house. Even 1 third party seat would be a victory, but that will only come on the back of increasing vote share increasing confidence in the ability of third parties to win, and therefore making it more likely that people will give them a shot rather than being scared of "throwing away their vote." So I suppose a win for me, if I could vote in America, would just be to see an increase in the third party vote share. Because of how much Trump is both hated and loved I think his polarization will decrease third party vote share this election, but a man can dream.

As for the house and senate and whatnot I can't say, for my mental health I try not to care about American politics too much. I honestly don't know how you guys keep up, I applaud you, you're stronger than I am. The only outcome I suppose I could hope for is that there is no one party domination at all three levels, so some checks and balances could persevere.

Someday it would be nice if a third party, say like the libertarians, could be seen like the NDP here, rarely do they matter, but they hold enough power that it's never seen as a throwaway vote to vote for them, and they hold coalition power when things are tight. Heck, for a while after the orange crush it looked like the NDP could outright win an election, but Jack Layton's passing away stripped them of their progress.

Roborian wrote:Just out of curiosity, for those in the region who do not intend to vote for either Trump or Biden (The Catholic State of Eire, Aawia, Phydios, or anyone else), assuming that we're not thinking a third-party candidate is actually going to win, what kind of outcome are you hoping for, if not necessarily voting for, in 2020?

My personal preference would be a moderate Biden victory for the Presidency and the GOP holding onto the Senate (if it's a fantasy, taking the House too, but that's not going to happen.) It's not that I don't think that Biden would not be harmful simply with executive power, but divided government ought to curb the worst excesses and the ability to court-pack or kill the filibuster, while the GOP can (hopefully) start to re-right itself post-Trump and pick up some ground in the 2022 midterms to hopefully set up a better chance for a better candidate in 2024.

Unfortunately I don't think that's very likely, the Presidential and Senate races are so closely tied now that it's highly unlikely that the GOP keeps the Senate if Biden wins anything more than a narrow victory, and a narrow victory is probably going to lead to a contested election. I am still of the mind that a Trump win would be better on purely policy grounds, but very likely not worth the long-term damage, especially since the House is very likely to remain Democrat-controlled regardless.

Unfortunately really a 'best of the bad options' kind of election as I see it.

What I would like to is that the Republican Party lose the election badly, causing a civil war in the party and hopefully for them to realign to a more economically populist position and working class base, while keeping their social conservative values. This would thereby give workers a legitimate alternative to the Democrats and their wokeness. The Republicans need to get rid of the libertarians and free market fundamentalists in their party, as well as the corporatists and that can only be done with a defeat with an alternative then having a chance of seizing control of the Republican leadership.

Slavic lechia

Roborian wrote:Just out of curiosity, for those in the region who do not intend to vote for either Trump or Biden (The Catholic State of Eire, Aawia, Phydios, or anyone else), assuming that we're not thinking a third-party candidate is actually going to win, what kind of outcome are you hoping for, if not necessarily voting for, in 2020?

My personal preference would be a moderate Biden victory for the Presidency and the GOP holding onto the Senate (if it's a fantasy, taking the House too, but that's not going to happen.) It's not that I don't think that Biden would not be harmful simply with executive power, but divided government ought to curb the worst excesses and the ability to court-pack or kill the filibuster, while the GOP can (hopefully) start to re-right itself post-Trump and pick up some ground in the 2022 midterms to hopefully set up a better chance for a better candidate in 2024.

Unfortunately I don't think that's very likely, the Presidential and Senate races are so closely tied now that it's highly unlikely that the GOP keeps the Senate if Biden wins anything more than a narrow victory, and a narrow victory is probably going to lead to a contested election. I am still of the mind that a Trump win would be better on purely policy grounds, but very likely not worth the long-term damage, especially since the House is very likely to remain Democrat-controlled regardless.

Unfortunately really a 'best of the bad options' kind of election as I see it.

I wouldn't say I am in favor of any specyfic outcome presented... I just hope that US becomes either isolationist or pacifist for the good of the world...

I just don't want wars with China... That's all... Pay your debt to China and I'll be happy... I guess Trump then? Since he kind of likes China and Putin? It is the lesser evil I think...

Aawia wrote:As a non-American my only goal with voting for a third party would be to see an increased share of third party votes that would lead to broader representation in either the senate or the house. Even 1 third party seat would be a victory, but that will only come on the back of increasing vote share increasing confidence in the ability of third parties to win, and therefore making it more likely that people will give them a shot rather than being scared of "throwing away their vote." So I suppose a win for me, if I could vote in America, would just be to see an increase in the third party vote share. Because of how much Trump is both hated and loved I think his polarization will decrease third party vote share this election, but a man can dream.

If there was any kind of internal consistency, there ought to be a ton of Hillary voters willing to go "I'm With Her" for Jorgensen, first female President, but I highly doubt she'll even get to Johnson's level.

As it stands, I haven't seen any congressional races where third parties really have a chance. The only current third party member of Congress, Amash, is not running for re-election.

Aawia wrote:

As for the house and senate and whatnot I can't say, for my mental health I try not to care about American politics too much. I honestly don't know how you guys keep up, I applaud you, you're stronger than I am. The only outcome I suppose I could hope for is that there is no one party domination at all three levels, so some checks and balances could persevere.

I definitely get that man, politics can just be the most taxing thing and do nothing but drive your neuroses crazy. I've pulled back a ton just to try to keep myself from spiraling into that even more, over the last few months I've definitely been deliberately leading less news and interacting less often politically, this is really the main place I still do just because we've got a nice community here even when there are disagreements.

Aawia wrote:

Someday it would be nice if a third party, say like the libertarians, could be seen like the NDP here, rarely do they matter, but they hold enough power that it's never seen as a throwaway vote to vote for them, and they hold coalition power when things are tight. Heck, for a while after the orange crush it looked like the NDP could outright win an election, but Jack Layton's passing away stripped them of their progress.

I'd like to see it, but I don't see it happening in my lifetime by any means other than a side-effect of another civil war. Every election is now "the most important election of our lifetime", and any deviation from the party's pick is treason.

Shaun King, back in the primaries, came out and said explicitly that the two candidates he would never vote for were Harris and Biden. He's now actively praising the ticket. It's just a color fight at this point, "Blue no matter who", and I don't know a good rhyme for the GOP at this point "Vote Red or we're dead", maybe.

The Catholic State of Eire wrote:What I would like to is that the Republican Party lose the election badly, causing a civil war in the party and hopefully for them to realign to a more economically populist position and working class base, while keeping their social conservative values. This would thereby give workers a legitimate alternative to the Democrats and their wokeness. The Republicans need to get rid of the libertarians and free market fundamentalists in their party, as well as the corporatists and that can only be done with a defeat with an alternative then having a chance of seizing control of the Republican leadership.

I do wonder what kind of chain of events would have to happen to lead to that sort of realignment, and I think it's probably more likely with a surprising win than a loss. Trump is, broadly speaking, a good deal more economically populist than the GOP orthodoxy, and it has definitely had knock-on effects through the party, seeing things like Marco Rubio going critical of capitalism and more populist Senators like Hawley and Cotton on the rise. I think a major Republican defeat is more likely to lead to a backlash against populism than an embrace of it, and that a second-term Trump is what would be more likely to make the party more populist economically, while retaining some level of social conservatism, particularly if one of the populisty younger GOP Senators becomes heir apparent.

Slavic lechia wrote:I wouldn't say I am in favor of any specyfic outcome presented... I just hope that US becomes either isolationist or pacifist for the good of the world...

I just don't want wars with China... That's all... Pay your debt to China and I'll be happy... I guess Trump then? Since he kind of likes China and Putin? It is the lesser evil I think...

Biden is likely to be softer on China, but probably more likely to get the U.S. into a war overall, it's pick your poison. I'd say on balance that Trump is probably the better option if isolationism and peace is your objective, I don't see things escalate to shooting between China and the U.S. for the next half-decade at least.

Phydios, The Catholic State of Eire, and Slavic lechia

Roborian wrote:I do wonder what kind of chain of events would have to happen to lead to that sort of realignment, and I think it's probably more likely with a surprising win than a loss. Trump is, broadly speaking, a good deal more economically populist than the GOP orthodoxy, and it has definitely had knock-on effects through the party, seeing things like Marco Rubio going critical of capitalism and more populist Senators like Hawley and Cotton on the rise. I think a major Republican defeat is more likely to lead to a backlash against populism than an embrace of it, and that a second-term Trump is what would be more likely to make the party more populist economically, while retaining some level of social conservatism, particularly if one of the populisty younger GOP Senators becomes heir apparent.

That could be the case too, at least with a defeat the chaos following it means all options are open. I do also feel that as of right now it is more likely for Trump to lose the election now than win it, but this of course can change. If he does win though then this might continue the trend Trump set with more Republicans becoming more open to economic populism, just don't expect the old guard to go without a fight. If the Republicans can shake off neo-liberalism it would be fantastic and I would vote for them, if I were a citizen of course.

The Catholic State of Eire wrote:That could be the case too, at least with a defeat the chaos following it means all options are open. I do also feel that as of right now it is more likely for Trump to lose the election now than win it, but this of course can change. If he does win though then this might continue the trend Trump set with more Republicans becoming more open to economic populism, just don't expect the old guard to go without a fight. If the Republicans can shake off neo-liberalism it would be fantastic and I would vote for them, if I were a citizen of course.

I agree that he is more likely to lose, though I think it is interesting that the old guard does seem to broadly be surprisingly willing to go without a fight. It seems that the GOP opposition to him is primarily either retiring relatively quietly, molding themselves more towards his image/ideology, or functionally leaving the party, either explicitly or, like the Lincoln Project, functionally.

I feel like there are probably a few different takes on why things are happening that way. One might just be that free-market advocates were never really that conservative on other issues and are willing to jump ship early, or that conservatives who were pro-market never really held that position very strongly and were fine with changing if it was along with the party. Alternatively, most in Congress are just doing some temporary adjustment or hiding their beliefs with the intention of going back once Trump is out of office, or, cynically, most don't really have positions on most any issues, they just go with whatever the party line is, or whatever the other party is against.

It's probably a combination of a few different things (I feel like I had another in mind but I can't recall what it was), but it is interesting to watch, even if I'm personally not exactly happy seeing it. It's not just the U.S. either, the argument that this is a broader trend rather than something temporary would be bolstered by seeing the Conservatives in the UK shift in a very similar manner.

I think that probably, though not definitely, there will not be a real 'civil war' in the GOP in most outcomes. I think if Trump wins, a gradual increase in populism will probably continue, and I don't think there'll be more than scattered backlash, and if he loses, that the party will return to something like normalcy relatively quickly, I don't think the populism has laid down any deep roots yet. The most likely civil war outcome is probably Trump losing a very narrow election in which the GOP might keep the Senate, or any scenario in which Trump tries to stay involved with the party after a defeat with enough credibility to not get blamed for the loss, that's the one where I think you'll start to see a more open fight about the future of the party going forward.

Roborian wrote:It's probably a combination of a few different things (I feel like I had another in mind but I can't recall what it was), but it is interesting to watch, even if I'm personally not exactly happy seeing it. It's not just the U.S. either, the argument that this is a broader trend rather than something temporary would be bolstered by seeing the Conservatives in the UK shift in a very similar manner.

For the Tories it wasn't so much a shift rather it being a coup and then a purge of anyone who refused to follow the leader.

The Catholic State of Eire wrote:For the Tories it wasn't so much a shift rather it being a coup and then a purge of anyone who refused to follow the leader.

I haven't read too much about it after the few months of Boris, I know he went crazy on his ministers, has he gone after MPs as well?

I suppose that's a significant difference between the two systems. Trump can certainly swing approval among the party, but he's got hard limits on the amount of influence he can actually have on its members, even if he declared a party war against McConnell, there's no guarantee he'd be the unquestioned winner-while its on a smaller scale, one can just look at his failed attempts to press McConnell into taking down the filibuster as an example.

Roborian wrote:I haven't read too much about it after the few months of Boris, I know he went crazy on his ministers, has he gone after MPs as well?

I suppose that's a significant difference between the two systems. Trump can certainly swing approval among the party, but he's got hard limits on the amount of influence he can actually have on its members, even if he declared a party war against McConnell, there's no guarantee he'd be the unquestioned winner-while its on a smaller scale, one can just look at his failed attempts to press McConnell into taking down the filibuster as an example.

Well he went after his MPs in 2019 after 21 Tory MPs were expelled from the party for voting against his Brexit withdrawal deal and yes he dismissed 11 senior ministers when coming to power. The simple truth now is that Boris has to near total control of the Tory party, with the grassroots membership being fully behind him.

Given that Boris leads 2 out of 3 branches of government the influence and general power he has is alot more than what Trump has.

Moving away from US domestic politics, there's momentous news coming from Israel:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/with-trump-s-help-israel-and-the-uae-reach-historic-deal-to-normalize-relations-1.9070687?utm_source=smartfocus&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-news&utm_content=5022887

That shouldn't be under pay-wall or subscription, but if it is, here's the first sentence.

"Israel and the United Arab Emirates reached a historic peace deal on Thursday that will lead to a full normalization of diplomatic relations between the two Middle Eastern nations in an agreement that U.S. President Donald Trump helped broker."

So now Netanyahu's Israel is getting legitimacy from the Arab world, this is amazing. We saw a pre-cursor to this with the so-called "Deal of the Century" with representatives/ambassadors from Oman, Bahrain, and the UAE attending the ceremony.

Roborian wrote:As it stands, I haven't seen any congressional races where third parties really have a chance. The only current third party member of Congress, Amash, is not running for re-election.

Didn't even know there was 1 third party member of the house, well that's good, though it's too bad he's stepping down. My hope would be that 1 could lead to 2 and so on, like the greens here in Canada who some say are on track to eventually replace the liberals as the centre-left party of the masses. Though, that's based on high-school mock votes and I would be shocked if the voting habits of high school kids remains unchanged through their adult years.

The Catholic State of Eire wrote:Well he went after his MPs in 2019 after 21 Tory MPs were expelled from the party for voting against his Brexit withdrawal deal and yes he dismissed 11 senior ministers when coming to power. The simple truth now is that Boris has to near total control of the Tory party, with the grassroots membership being fully behind him.

Given that Boris leads 2 out of 3 branches of government the influence and general power he has is alot more than what Trump has.

Interesting, thanks. It makes perfect sense with the way that Prime Ministers work in a parliamentary system, but that definitely does rub me the wrong way, the ability to purge dissent in such a manner, especially with the greater power of the PM to have elections at more convenient times.

Aawia wrote:Didn't even know there was 1 third party member of the house, well that's good, though it's too bad he's stepping down. My hope would be that 1 could lead to 2 and so on, like the greens here in Canada who some say are on track to eventually replace the liberals as the centre-left party of the masses. Though, that's based on high-school mock votes and I would be shocked if the voting habits of high school kids remains unchanged through their adult years.

He sort of does not count, he was elected as a Republican and switched parties due to impeachment, though he was already a member of the GOP's libertarian club with Massie and Paul, so unfortunately there's little chance of him spawning more. There has not been an actual elected third-party Congressperson since the 1940s.

I would argue the GOP has been functionally a populist party since Goldwater, it has just also had an elitist Neo-Constervative leadership that is largely able to control the populist elements in the party by hitting certain talking points. Typically it is the Neo-conservative group/candidate that is best able to unite the disperate, bickering, half-crazy factions into the Big Tent of Republicanism.

I have been recently contemplating what will happen if Trump loses, as in the aftermath. Will he really just "go away" and move on? Very unlikely. He would stay, harping from Twitter and perhaps even actively stoking his supporters. If the election is close enough we should not discount him trying a "Grover Cleveland".

The Gallant Old Republic wrote:I have been recently contemplating what will happen if Trump loses, as in the aftermath. Will he really just "go away" and move on? Very unlikely. He would stay, harping from Twitter and perhaps even actively stoking his supporters. If the election is close enough we should not discount him trying a "Grover Cleveland".

If Trump loses, we will NEVER hear the end of it. For the rest of his political career, he will harp on the loss. He'll blame Democrats, anti-Trump Republicans, Russia, China- anyone and anything besides his own foolish behavior. He may even try to run again in the future, though probably not right away.

Not sure what you mean by a "Grover Cleveland", though. I'm not very familiar with him.

The Gallant Old Republic wrote:I would argue the GOP has been functionally a populist party since Goldwater, it has just also had an elitist Neo-Constervative leadership that is largely able to control the populist elements in the party by hitting certain talking points. Typically it is the Neo-conservative group/candidate that is best able to unite the disperate, bickering, half-crazy factions into the Big Tent of Republicanism.

I broadly agree. I wouldn't necessarily put the focus on neo-conservative with its foreign policy emphasis, I think that there is plenty of appetite for war and intervention among the GOP base, it does tend to flip-flop between that and isolationism, but I do think that that is true on economic policy. I don't think the majority of Republican voters really care deeply about shrinking government and fiscal austerity, there's some bits of that that do naturally come from the 'meritocracy/hard work' kind of thinking, but I think most are pretty much down for government intervention or spending that they see as beneficial. They fall in line with market thinking because that is what the heads of the party tend to promote, and promote along lines that fit with a generally conservative mindset. Without that influence and framing from up top, you see that kind of populism emerge.

On a side but related note, I really do think that the framing of issues along more cultural lines really is incredibly important in politics, it and partisanship is how you see things like the infamous telling Bernie supporters about Trump's tax proposals while saying they came from Bernie and watching them praise it-but that's not an attitude just limited to that side.

I would wager that you could go so far as to flip support for a number of issues a full 180 degrees on the partisan axis if you could wipe the political memories of every voter and then put forward the opposite side's position framed in their side's language. You could very likely get a majority of conservatives to support strict gun control if put forward in the language of national security, law and order, and supporting police, and you could get a majority of liberals to support criminalizing abortion if advanced with the rhetoric of human rights of the oppressed.

The Gallant Old Republic wrote:

I have been recently contemplating what will happen if Trump loses, as in the aftermath. Will he really just "go away" and move on? Very unlikely. He would stay, harping from Twitter and perhaps even actively stoking his supporters. If the election is close enough we should not discount him trying a "Grover Cleveland".

I've been wrong on Trump before, but I do think that if he loses by enough, that he won't be able to stick around even if he wants to. In a close, contested election, he might get some traction, but I'd hold that a significant portion of his continued appeal is tied up in his being successful, or at least being able to portray himself as successful. Him being a 'fighter' was the line explaining support for a lot of Republicans who did not necessarily like him, at least not at first, but while Trump could shift blame for 2018, I think waking up to something like total Democratic control of Congress is going to see an extremely abrupt dropping of him by a good majority of those who currently approve, the appeals just won't land anymore. The GOP doesn't really have any too well-regarded statesmen to bring the party forward after, but I'd fully expect a deliberate effort to lock him out following a significant loss regardless of his opinion on the matter.

Phydios wrote:If Trump loses, we will NEVER hear the end of it. For the rest of his political career, he will harp on the loss. He'll blame Democrats, anti-Trump Republicans, Russia, China- anyone and anything besides his own foolish behavior. He may even try to run again in the future, though probably not right away.

Not sure what you mean by a "Grover Cleveland", though. I'm not very familiar with him.

Only President to serve two non-consecutive terms, won, lost re-election, ran again four years later and won. Actually not too bad of a President either, I've coincidentally been doing some reading on him recently and I've been relatively impressed thus far. He's also the reason why Trump is the 45th President of the U.S. despite the fact that only 44 men have served as President, Cleveland was both #22 and #24.

The Gallant Old Republic wrote:I have been recently contemplating what will happen if Trump loses, as in the aftermath. Will he really just "go away" and move on? Very unlikely. He would stay, harping from Twitter and perhaps even actively stoking his supporters. If the election is close enough we should not discount him trying a "Grover Cleveland".

He's too old to do a Grover Cleveland nonconcurrent term.

New waldensia wrote:He's too old to do a Grover Cleveland nonconcurrent term.

I'd say probably, but not definitely. He'd be as old as Biden is now in 2024 (not the most inspiring example, to be sure), but while he's not the healthiest guy, he might age like Strom Thurmond, it's too early to tell.

Protesters at a rally in Portland, on video, burned Bibles and an American flag. Real video, confirmed by multiple sources, local CBS report and police statement, Snopes fact-checked as true.

The New York Times called it "the first viral hit in Russia's 2020 disinformation campaign"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/us/politics/russia-disinformation-election-meddling.html

I don't know how much farther this rabbit hole can go, man, it's deeply depressing. Look at the Ruptly (RT) statement on it

After this article was published, Ruptly said in a statement that it was “shockingly dishonest,” noting that The Times had reported that the video was not manipulated in any way and that the Russian news agency had run a livestream of the event. But, Ruptly said, The Times “then claims that this verified evidence is now disinformation; Orwell would be proud.”

A Russian propaganda outlet has become a more truthful and reliable news source than the Grey Lady, the paper of record. At some point this insanity is just going to become too much to process and that point looks pretty darn close.

Hello Right to Life, here are your updated stocks. Anyone wishing to join should telegram me or tag me in a message your company’s name and what type of company it is. If you want to invest just telegram me or send me a message of where you would like to invest. I’ve made a few changes to the stock market, I’ve introduced a karma system that will serve as a multiplier to your overall company value. Every investment by a nation into a company that doesn’t belong to them will be rewarded with karma points. The nation receives 1k for an investment lower than 500 million dollars, 2k for an investment between 500 million and 999,999,999, and 3k for an investment above 1 billion. Karma points are transferred to stock points and are added onto the nation’s companies’ values. Nations can also buy power ups to boost companies’ values. There shall be four original power ups, but more can be added by other nations if I approve of them. The creator of a new power up can use it for free the first time he or she wants it. Otherwise, all nations wishing to buy a power up should pay its fee using the nation’s companies’ stock points. The nation does not have a bought power up anymore if he or she doesn’t pay the power up’s renewal fee in time, or I decide to terminate the nation’s power up privilege. All power ups shall be bought in the shop down below. If you guys have any questions, please let me know. Anyways, here’s the updated stock market


CELEBRATING 1000 READS!
This stock market will be for companies from nations in the Labyrinth’s embassy regions to expand and make more money. Through the stock market, values will determine investments and due to the wide accessibility of this stock market, companies are guaranteed to make at least some sort of profit. The number besides the company is it’s value in the stock market, one point is equal to 1 million Jilars. The money companies earn will not come from the state, instead, they will come from the revenue made from their products, locations, or to put it simply, from the client. The + or - sign besides the companies indicate whether the company’s value has risen or fallen since last week’s report. The number besides the + or - signs indicates by exactly how much it rose or fell.
In addition, every company on the stock market will get a weekly pay of 100 million Jilars. 85% of the stock market’s profits will go to the companies while 15% will go to PeePeePooPooCaCa. The nation with the largest company in each sector of the market receives a trading card, nations are limited to one card. The card is uncommon if the sector has less than five different nations, rare if it has more than five but less than ten, and epic/legendary if the sector has more than 10 nations.
Every investment by a nation into a company that doesn’t belong to them will be rewarded with karma points. The nation receives 1k for an investment lower than 500 million dollars, 2k for an investment between 500 million and 999,999,999, and 3k for an investment above 1 billion. Karma points are transferred to stock points and are added onto the nation’s companies’ values.
Nations can also buy power ups to boost companies’ values. There shall be four original power ups, but more can be added by other nations if Peepeepoopoocaca approves of them. The creator of a new power up can use it for free the first time he or she wants it. Otherwise, all nations wishing to buy a power up should pay its fee using the nation’s companies’ stock points. The nation does not have a bought power up anymore if he or she don’t pay the power up’s renewal fee in time, or Peepeepoopoocaca decides to terminate the nation’s power up privilege. All power ups shall be bought in the shop down below.
In addition to the karma points system, there will also be another type of external investment. They’re called shares, which essentially means that the company you invest in has to repay you in the form of a dividend. A dividend is calculated using a percentage system, which means that a nation’s share is also it’s dividend. For example, if a nation holds a 20% share of a company, then the company being invested in needs to give the shareholder 20% of weekly profits. So if that company makes 10k points in a week, 2k go to the shareholder. Dividends and shares investments are overall pretty good as they don’t have to be renewed as frequently as karma investments, but they require more negotiation, as the shareholder nation and company representative nation both need to agree on the terms of the investment. The shareholder now possesses a share in said company, and they can sell shares whenever they feel they don’t need said share anymore, for example, when a company’s doing poorly. Shares that are sold on the market are registered as initial public offerings, or IPOs. The number in brackets besides the listed shares down below is the current revenue being made by that company’s share, which is the same as the share price. The whole point of buying and seeking shares is to buy at low prices, and sell at high prices whenever the stockholder honks it’s right.
There will be banks stationed across PPPPCC and elsewhere that will help to fund and monetarily aid the companies in the stock market. A good way to do this will be through loans, which will be eventually paid back by interest. To buy a loan, first choose a bank in which you will form a partnership with and buy loans from them in the future. This bank is now called your ‘partnership bank’. Now, specify the amount of money that will be required to fund the buyer’s project(s), and then, you’re expected to pay back a certain amount of interest within a certain time span. One credit point is equal to 100 stock points and vice versa. On top of this, companies will be able to deposit any money (aka stock points) they currently posses to the bank, and withdraw it whenever they please. As a side note, you’re allowed to change your partnership bank whenever you want, but you have to make an agreement with both banks.
This stock market’s plan is to give companies a fair chance and open up in new lands with new markets and new opportunities. This will never be a stock market established due to corporate greed. We shall never deny a guest, even the most ridiculous request.

For a place to discuss the stock market, ask questions, roleplay scenarios with your companies, and arrange further deals, create an alternate account or submit Embassy requests and join the Inter regional stock market region.


The San Juarez Stock Exchange in San Juarez, PPPPCC

TRADING FLOOR:

TECHNOLOGY

Megasoft (Plus Nova Imperii) - 227K +21K
Genesis Space Tech (The Rouge Christmas State) - 85K -18K
Urukian Computers Co. (Urukian) - 150K +7K
Movey Tech (Moveyrsearlandez) - 109K -15K
Roder (Otterse) - 110K -13K
Mahjanji (Indoinastan) - 177K +3K
GovernmentAndy Inc. (Isolationstan) - 138K +3K
Mecham (Isolationstan) - 144K +8K
The Twitter (Mukh) - 128K +2K
Tokyo Novum Space Tech (Novos romanos) - 148K +3K

INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY

Data Corp (The Rouge Christmas State) - 88K -18K
Regal Infotech (Port ashley) - 71K -18K
Annoying Discord Bots (Arcane the bot) - 126K +2K
MegaBit (Edington) - 109K -7K
Emporious (Novos romanos) - 142K +4K
Genos-Aelia company (Romaniche) - 188K +30K

FISHING

Pristine Urukian Fishing Co. (Urukian) - 76K +13K

FINANCE

The Duke National Bank (The Rouge Christmas State) - 52K -18K
Pankki Aussandri (Aussandries) - 108K +8K
Sheffield Preudential Bank (Port ashley) - 32K -18K
Pan-Caribbean Bank (Port ashley) - 26K -18K
Natona Banca de’Belac (The belacian states) - 114K +13K
Searland Stock Exchange (Moveyrsearlandez) - 67K -15K
Zhest Exchequer (Indoinastan) - 126K +3K
Gazprombank (Primorski Krai) - 103K +5K
SpanaBank (El Spana) - 150K +8K
jetBank (The belacian states) - 113K +13K

ARMS MANUFACTURING

Xavier Manufacturing (The Rouge Christmas State) - 44K -18K
Urukian Arms Industry (Urukian) - 103K +7K
Soria Co. (Sorianora) - 123K +11K
Aussandries Arms (Aussandries) - 90K +9K
FN (Belned) - 106K +17K
RAPNI (Romaniche) - 142K +26K
Imperial Arms (Puppet scp fuadation) - 88K -15K
The Rifle From The Red (Commie tebit) - 48K -13K
German Austrian Arms Manufacturing (The greater german austrian empire) - 105K +5K
NRAP (Novos romanos) - 109K +8K
The Golden Weapon (The rome empire) - 97K +2K
Pewds Arms (Pewds supporter) - 45K -21K
Vegetarian Light Armaments (Democratic republic of nothingness) - 102K +1K
Rajputana Rifles (Republic of rajputana) - 106K +2K
Carthage and Co (Carthaginian civilization) - 94K +2K
BFP (Belned) - 118K +13K
تصنيع اذرع الشمس (Urukian) - 130K +13K
Mosin and Avtomat Armory (Primorski Krai) - 104K +5K
Guns For Freedom (Legionarya) - 148K +26K
Tengri Seraphim (Khazar lechia) - 78K -9K

SPACE

Stavanger Space Tech (Urukian) - 113K +9K
Urukian Space Repair Service (Urukian) - 105K +8K
U2 Space (Phoenix city of fire) - 110K +2K
Young Industries Civilian Aeronautics Division (Young industries) - 99K +1K
Tokyo Novum Space Industries (Novos romanos) - 111K +5K

BEVERAGES

The Rare Old Mountain Dew (Aussandries) - 60K +9K
Roma-Soda (Romaniche) - 93K +24K
Ecchi-Cola (The Strangers Club) - 70K +14K
Par Biir (The belacian states) - 61K +12K

PROSTITUTION

Meninas Capitalistas (Ofiussia) - 28K +3K

RETAIL

Roma-Nike (Romaniche) - 178K +26K
Strange-Mart (The Strangers Club) - 176K +16K
JP Capitalista (Novos romanos) - 141K +5K

CHEESE EXPORTS

Khan’s Milk Farm (Khazar lechia) - 28K -6K
Romanichean Cheese (Romaniche) - 89K +24K
Tillamook Cheese (Isolationstan) - 62K +9K
Transvaal Dairy (Wabobania) - 39K +1K
Raja Panner Curry (Indoinastan) - 60K +4K
Puic Cheese (Carthaginian civilization) - 40K +1K
La Branzika (Legionarya) - 92K +24K

AGRICULTURE

Khan’s Personal Fields (Khazar lechia) - 56K +6K
Faster Growth (Otterse) - 35K -9K
NR Agriculture (Novos romanos) - 62K +4K
Sodrugestvo (Primorski Krai) - 63K +7K

PHARMACEUTICALS

Sun Pharma (Port ashley) - 13K -18K
University Medicine (Hopal) - 64K +2K
G Pharmaceutics SRL (Gavraska) - 66K +9K

DEFENSE

Cambium Aerospace and Trucks (Port ashley) - 23K-18K
Bunker-Apparatus (Koedric) - 79K +10K
Imperial Armed Defense (Puppet scp fuadation) - 69K -7K
The Red China Army (Commie tebit) - 33K -12K
Golden Wall (The rome empire) - 78K +2K
UAC (Primorski Krai) - 76K +7K

AUTOMOBILES

Scandia Automobiles (Port ashley) - 21K -18K
Satirop (Phoenix city of fire) - 81K +3K
Cars and Stuff (New cica) - 77K +1K
Belton Automotive (Isolationstan) - 86K +3K
Rebirth Motors (Rebirth Island) - 74K +1K
Henry Ford (Legionarya) - 88K +22K

BICYCLES

Belac Bíçiclas (The belacian states) - 82K +9K
H Bikes (Hopal) - 61K +2K

NATURAL GAS

Urukian Natural Gas (Urukian) - 112K +23K

MINING

Urukian Minerals Production (Urukian) - 207K +26K
Novos Romanos Minerals Ltd (Novos romanos) - 182K +4K
Cratersville Mining Ltd (Isolationstan) - 178K +6K

TOURISM

visitBelac (The belacian states) - 130K +13K
Imagine Indoina (Indoinastan) - 118K +3K
TravelDumb (Dumb country) - 96K

GAMBLING

Ugosalinese Casinos (Ugosal) - 116K +4K
Cykas ke liye Kazino (Indoinastan) - 118K +3K
The Rising Sun (The Strangers Club) - 134K +13K

CLOTHING

Seter (Moveyrsearlandez) - 76K -8K

JEWELRY

Lal Ruby (Indoinastan) - 177K +3K

TIMBER WOODCHIPPING

Chipps Chips (Isolationstan) - 95K +9K

FILM AND BOOK PUBLISHING

PAWS Trademark Limited (Indoinastan) - 110K +3K

FILM PUBLISHING

Viking Studios & Dark House Films (El Spana) - 88K +4K
Belac Film Company (The belacian states) - 93K +11K

BASKET WEAVING

Romanichean Festives Stock (Romaniche) - 76K +16K

FLEX SEAL FAMILY OF PRODUCTS

Flex Seal Family of Products (Swiftlandian Peoples Republic) - 206K -3K

BLACK MARKET

River Styx (Draconovox) - 148K +23K
NR Slaves INC (Novos romanos) - 82K +3K

TV PRODUCTION

Anime Production Center (Phoenix city of fire) - 78K +4K
Viva Studios (Latiouthel) 73K +4K

LUMBER

The Spaniard Woodstock (El Spana) - 91K +4K

BARS

Slagger's (The corporate sectors) - 49K +1K

EMPLOYMENT

Workers of the World United (Slavic lechia) - 55K +2K

BROADCASTING

GMA Network (Latiouthel) - 68K +4K

ENERGY

IEG Company Corp (Latiouthel) - 79K +4K
Nuclearrr INC (Novos romanos) - 87K +4K

SOY SAUCE

Sam’s Sauce (Akumanga) - 43K +6K

TRADE

Auchan (Primorski Krai) - 81K +5K
Amorix International (Ethics committee of the scpf) - 75K +4K

TEMPLES

مذابح الشمس (Urukian) - 73K +14K
श्रेकवादी हिंदू धर्म और संथाल मंदिर of മെമ്മുകളും കമ്യൂണിസവും (Indoinastan) - 68K +3K

RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT

Mindon Labs (Mindon) - 78K +2K

FAST F00D

MC doNAlds (Japanese ronald mc donald) - 69K +4K

BROADCASTING

Channel 6 (The belacian states) - 90K +10K

FOOD

Food Heaven (The belacian states) - 73K +9K

RECYCLING

Humans Recycled Co. (Yes humans are recyclable) - 44K +4K

MANUFACTURING

BLC Corporation (Latiouthel) - 83K +5K

MILITARY WEAPONRY

The Naliz Corpotarion (The soldrania) - 88K

VIRGIN GROUP

Virgin Group (A Memer) - 69K

DATA:
THIS WEEK’S LOSSES: $414 Billion
THIS WEEK’S REVENUE: $759 Billion
THIS WEEK’S PROFIT: $345 Billion
TOTAL ALL TIME REVENUE MADE SO FAR: ~$106 Trillion
NATIONS INVOLVED: 57
REGIONS INVOLVED: 19

CURRENT INVESTMENTS:

Aug 16. Aussandries into Aussandries companies, 1 month

Aug 22. The Strangers Club 2 billion into The Strange Mart, 1 month

Aug 25. Urukian 2 billion into Urukian companies +1 billion to Urukian National Gas and Urukian Minerals Co., 1 month

Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Mecham (Isolationstan), 1 month

Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Rapni (Romaniche), 1 month

Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Tillamook Cheese (Isolationstan), 1 month

Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Romanichean Cheese (Romaniche), 1 month

Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Spanabank (El Spana), 1 month

Aug 26. The belacian states into The belacian states companies, 1 month

Aug 26. Legionarya 10 million into Legionarya companies, 1 month

Aug 26. Hopal 3 billion into University Medicine, 1 month

Aug 26. Gavraska 35K into Pristine Urukian Fishing Co., 1 month

Aug 26. Gavraska 1 billion into Gavraska companies, 1 month

Aug 29. The Strangers Club 500 million into MegaSoft (Plus Nova Imperii), 1 month

Aug 29. The Strangers Club 500 million into Anime Production Center (Phoenix city of fire), 1 month

Aug 29. Koedric into BFP (Belned), 1 month

Aug 29. Akumanga 500 million into Sam’s Sauce, 1 month

Aug 29. Urukian 1 billion into تصنيع اذرع الشمس, 1 month

Aug 29. The belacian states 500 million into Chipps Chips (Isolationstan), 1 month

Aug 30. Gavraska 500 million into Khan’s Personal Fields (Khazar lechia), 1 month

Aug 30. Gavraska 500 million into Golden Wall (The rome empire), 1 month

Aug 30. Gavraska 200 million into La Branzika (Legionarya), 1 month

Aug 30. Aussandries 1 billion+ into visitBelac (The belacian states), 1 month

Sep 7. Legionarya 200 million into Legionarya companies, 1 month

Sep 7. Romaniche 150 billion into Romaniche companies, 1 week

Sep 7. Romaniche 50 billion into Emporious (Novos romanos), FN (Belned), BFP (Belned), NRAP (Novos romanos), Guns for Freedom (Legionarya), JP Capitalista (Novos romanos), La Branzinka (Legionarya), 1 week

Sep 7. Plus Nova Imperii into Plus Nova Imperii companies, 1 week

Sep 7. Plus Nova Imperii into Sorianora companies, 1 week

Sep 7. Sorianora into Sorianora companies, 1 week

Sep 7. Sorianora into Plus Nova Imperii companies, 1 week

Sep 7. Koedric into Bunker Apparatus (Koedric) and FN (Belned), 1 week

Sep 7. The Strangers Club 5 billion into The Strangers Club companies, 1 month

Sep 7. The Strangers Club 2 billion into MegaSoft (Puppet States of Plus Nova Imperii), 1 month

Sep 7. The Strangers Club 2 billion into Anime Production Center (Phoenix city of fire), 1 month

IRPSFSM or IRSFADM INVESTMENTS

Sep 7. The soldrania 100 million into Bitterlich (Sturengartz), 1 month (IRPSFSM Company Investment) - Company Ceased to Exist, Investment Firm Payed Back With the Company’s Remaining Value (4 Billion)

SHOP:

Pizza: Increases your companies’ investment deadlines by a month | Cost: 10,000 Stock Points | Renewal Cost: 1,500 Points (Must be paid within a month)

Totem of Undying: Restores a company below 3,000 points back to the stock market with an initial value of 5,000 points | Cost: 0 Points, Message or Telegram to Peepeepoopoocaca (No renewal required)

Chaos Emerald: Increases a company’s value by 10% each week | Cost: 25,000 Points | Renewal Cost: 3,000 Points (Must be paid within a week)

Scooby Snack: Gives you 1,000 free karma points every month | Cost: 5,000 Points | Renewal Cost: 1,000 Points (Must be paid within a month)

OWNED SHARES:

Draconovox: 15% Shares in Mecham (22K), Rapni (21K), Tillamook Cheese (9K), Romanichean Cheese (14K), and Spanabank (23K)

Sorianora: 10% Share in MegaSoft (23K)

Gavraska: 1% Share in Pristine Fishing Co. (760)

The Strangers Club: 15% Share in MegaSoft (34K), and Anime Production Center (12K)

Koedric: 10% Share in BFP (12K)

Romaniche: 20% Share in BFP (24K), Guns For Freedom (30K), FN (21K), Emporious (28K), NRAP (22K), JP Capitalista (28K), La Brazinka (18K)

The belacian states: 10% Share in Chipps Chips (10K)

Gavraska: 10% Share in Khan’s Personal Fields (6K), and Golden Wall (8K)

Gavraska: 5% Share in La Brazinka (5K)

Aussandries: 15% Share in visitBelac (20K)

Indoinastan: 5% Share in U2 Space (6K), Satirop (4K), and Anime Production Center (4K)

Koedric: 10% Share in FN (11K)

SHARES ON SALE/IPOs:

- 10% of jetBank (The belacian states)
- 15% of Par Biir (The belacian states)
- 4% of Belac Film Company (The belacian states)
- 8% of Belac Bíçiclas (The belacian states)

COMPANIES ON SALE:

Here’s where companies who’s country owners have ceased to exist go to be hopefully bought by new countries and return to the stock market

- Bing Software National, Info. Tech Company, Former Owner: Of altonianic islands, Value: 369K

- Wooloo, Arms Manufacturing Company, Former Owner: Wooloo-land, Value: 7K

- Ludwig and Beilschmit, Space Company, Former Owner: Gallar, Value: 95K

- Glorious Potatoes Inc., Agriculture Company, Former Owner: Of altonianic islands Value: 75K

- Haberlin, Military Aircraft Company, Former Owner: Sturengartz Value: 58K

- Brausewetter, Natural Gas Company, Former Owner: Sturengartz Value: 40K

- Sturencabel, Telecommunications Company, Former Owner: Sturengartz Value: 60K

- The Golden Hour, Gambling Company, Former Owner: Gallar Value: 108K

- Billy’s Chicken, Poultry Farms Company, Former Owner: Chicknland Value: 60K

The Duke National Bank (The Rouge Christmas State):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

Pankki Aussandri (Aussandries):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

Sheffield Preudential Bank (Port ashley):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

Pan-Caribbean Bank (Port ashley):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

Natona Banca de’Belac (The belacian states):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

Searland Stock Exchange (Moveyrsearlandez):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

Exchequer (Indoinastan):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

Gazprombank (Primorski Krai):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

SpanaBank (El Spana):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

jetBank (The belacian states):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

COMPANY AWARDS
COMPANY OF THE WEEK: Genos-Aelia company (Romaniche) - 158K
MOST VALUABLE COMPANY: Bing Software National (Of altonianic islands) - 362K

FORMER COMPANIES:
All of these companies are now currently in the Inter Regional Primary Stock and Financial Support Market (IRPSFSM)

- Gòngchǎn Baskets (Commie tebit)
- LS’s Bigmouth (CALLMEDADDYSTRATTON)


COUNTRY PROFILES:

Plus Nova Imperii: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The Rouge Christmas State: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Urukian: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Moveyrsearlandez: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Otterse: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Indoinastan: Karma Multipliter: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Isolationstan: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Mukh: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Novos romanos: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Port ashley: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Arcane the bot: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Edington: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Romaniche: Karma Multipliter: 15K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Callmedaddystratton: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Aussandries: Karma Multipliter: 3K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The belacian states: Karma Multipliter: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Primorski Krai: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Sorianora: Karma Multipliter: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Belned: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Puppet scp fuadation: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Commie tebit: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The greater german austrian empire: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The rome empire: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Pewds supporter: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Democratic republic of nothingness: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Republic of rajputana: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Carthaginian civilization: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Legionarya: Karma Multipliter: 9K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Khazar lechia: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Phoenix city of fire: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Young industries: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The Strangers Club: Karma Multipliter: 8K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Ofiussia: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Wabobania: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Koedric: Karma Multipliter: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
New cica: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Rebirth Island: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Ugosal: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
El Spana: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Swiftlandian Peoples Republic: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Draconovox: Karma Multipliter: 15K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The corporate sectors: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Slavic lechia: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Latiouthel: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Akumanga: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Mindon: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Japanese ronald mc donald: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Hopal: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Gavraska: Karma Multiplier: 6K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Yes humans are recyclable: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Ethics committee of the scpf: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The soldrania: Karma Multiplier: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Dumb country: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
A Memer: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None



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Ecclestia

Slavic lechia

Peepeepoopoocaca wrote:Hello Right to Life, here are your updated stocks. Anyone wishing to join should telegram me or tag me in a message your company’s name and what type of company it is. If you want to invest just telegram me or send me a message of where you would like to invest. I’ve made a few changes to the stock market, I’ve introduced a karma system that will serve as a multiplier to your overall company value. Every investment by a nation into a company that doesn’t belong to them will be rewarded with karma points. The nation receives 1k for an investment lower than 500 million dollars, 2k for an investment between 500 million and 999,999,999, and 3k for an investment above 1 billion. Karma points are transferred to stock points and are added onto the nation’s companies’ values. Nations can also buy power ups to boost companies’ values. There shall be four original power ups, but more can be added by other nations if I approve of them. The creator of a new power up can use it for free the first time he or she wants it. Otherwise, all nations wishing to buy a power up should pay its fee using the nation’s companies’ stock points. The nation does not have a bought power up anymore if he or she doesn’t pay the power up’s renewal fee in time, or I decide to terminate the nation’s power up privilege. All power ups shall be bought in the shop down below. If you guys have any questions, please let me know. Anyways, here’s the updated stock market

CELEBRATING 1000 READS!
This stock market will be for companies from nations in the Labyrinth’s embassy regions to expand and make more money. Through the stock market, values will determine investments and due to the wide accessibility of this stock market, companies are guaranteed to make at least some sort of profit. The number besides the company is it’s value in the stock market, one point is equal to 1 million Jilars. The money companies earn will not come from the state, instead, they will come from the revenue made from their products, locations, or to put it simply, from the client. The + or - sign besides the companies indicate whether the company’s value has risen or fallen since last week’s report. The number besides the + or - signs indicates by exactly how much it rose or fell.
In addition, every company on the stock market will get a weekly pay of 100 million Jilars. 85% of the stock market’s profits will go to the companies while 15% will go to PeePeePooPooCaCa. The nation with the largest company in each sector of the market receives a trading card, nations are limited to one card. The card is uncommon if the sector has less than five different nations, rare if it has more than five but less than ten, and epic/legendary if the sector has more than 10 nations.
Every investment by a nation into a company that doesn’t belong to them will be rewarded with karma points. The nation receives 1k for an investment lower than 500 million dollars, 2k for an investment between 500 million and 999,999,999, and 3k for an investment above 1 billion. Karma points are transferred to stock points and are added onto the nation’s companies’ values.
Nations can also buy power ups to boost companies’ values. There shall be four original power ups, but more can be added by other nations if Peepeepoopoocaca approves of them. The creator of a new power up can use it for free the first time he or she wants it. Otherwise, all nations wishing to buy a power up should pay its fee using the nation’s companies’ stock points. The nation does not have a bought power up anymore if he or she don’t pay the power up’s renewal fee in time, or Peepeepoopoocaca decides to terminate the nation’s power up privilege. All power ups shall be bought in the shop down below.
In addition to the karma points system, there will also be another type of external investment. They’re called shares, which essentially means that the company you invest in has to repay you in the form of a dividend. A dividend is calculated using a percentage system, which means that a nation’s share is also it’s dividend. For example, if a nation holds a 20% share of a company, then the company being invested in needs to give the shareholder 20% of weekly profits. So if that company makes 10k points in a week, 2k go to the shareholder. Dividends and shares investments are overall pretty good as they don’t have to be renewed as frequently as karma investments, but they require more negotiation, as the shareholder nation and company representative nation both need to agree on the terms of the investment. The shareholder now possesses a share in said company, and they can sell shares whenever they feel they don’t need said share anymore, for example, when a company’s doing poorly. Shares that are sold on the market are registered as initial public offerings, or IPOs. The number in brackets besides the listed shares down below is the current revenue being made by that company’s share, which is the same as the share price. The whole point of buying and seeking shares is to buy at low prices, and sell at high prices whenever the stockholder honks it’s right.
There will be banks stationed across PPPPCC and elsewhere that will help to fund and monetarily aid the companies in the stock market. A good way to do this will be through loans, which will be eventually paid back by interest. To buy a loan, first choose a bank in which you will form a partnership with and buy loans from them in the future. This bank is now called your ‘partnership bank’. Now, specify the amount of money that will be required to fund the buyer’s project(s), and then, you’re expected to pay back a certain amount of interest within a certain time span. One credit point is equal to 100 stock points and vice versa. On top of this, companies will be able to deposit any money (aka stock points) they currently posses to the bank, and withdraw it whenever they please. As a side note, you’re allowed to change your partnership bank whenever you want, but you have to make an agreement with both banks.
This stock market’s plan is to give companies a fair chance and open up in new lands with new markets and new opportunities. This will never be a stock market established due to corporate greed. We shall never deny a guest, even the most ridiculous request.

For a place to discuss the stock market, ask questions, roleplay scenarios with your companies, and arrange further deals, create an alternate account or submit Embassy requests and join the Inter regional stock market region.


The San Juarez Stock Exchange in San Juarez, PPPPCC

TRADING FLOOR:

TECHNOLOGY

Megasoft (Plus Nova Imperii) - 227K +21K
Genesis Space Tech (The Rouge Christmas State) - 85K -18K
Urukian Computers Co. (Urukian) - 150K +7K
Movey Tech (Moveyrsearlandez) - 109K -15K
Roder (Otterse) - 110K -13K
Mahjanji (Indoinastan) - 177K +3K
GovernmentAndy Inc. (Isolationstan) - 138K +3K
Mecham (Isolationstan) - 144K +8K
The Twitter (Mukh) - 128K +2K
Tokyo Novum Space Tech (Novos romanos) - 148K +3K

INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY

Data Corp (The Rouge Christmas State) - 88K -18K
Regal Infotech (Port ashley) - 71K -18K
Annoying Discord Bots (Arcane the bot) - 126K +2K
MegaBit (Edington) - 109K -7K
Emporious (Novos romanos) - 142K +4K
Genos-Aelia company (Romaniche) - 188K +30K

FISHING

Pristine Urukian Fishing Co. (Urukian) - 76K +13K

FINANCE

The Duke National Bank (The Rouge Christmas State) - 52K -18K
Pankki Aussandri (Aussandries) - 108K +8K
Sheffield Preudential Bank (Port ashley) - 32K -18K
Pan-Caribbean Bank (Port ashley) - 26K -18K
Natona Banca de’Belac (The belacian states) - 114K +13K
Searland Stock Exchange (Moveyrsearlandez) - 67K -15K
Zhest Exchequer (Indoinastan) - 126K +3K
Gazprombank (Primorski Krai) - 103K +5K
SpanaBank (El Spana) - 150K +8K
jetBank (The belacian states) - 113K +13K

ARMS MANUFACTURING

Xavier Manufacturing (The Rouge Christmas State) - 44K -18K
Urukian Arms Industry (Urukian) - 103K +7K
Soria Co. (Sorianora) - 123K +11K
Aussandries Arms (Aussandries) - 90K +9K
FN (Belned) - 106K +17K
RAPNI (Romaniche) - 142K +26K
Imperial Arms (Puppet scp fuadation) - 88K -15K
The Rifle From The Red (Commie tebit) - 48K -13K
German Austrian Arms Manufacturing (The greater german austrian empire) - 105K +5K
NRAP (Novos romanos) - 109K +8K
The Golden Weapon (The rome empire) - 97K +2K
Pewds Arms (Pewds supporter) - 45K -21K
Vegetarian Light Armaments (Democratic republic of nothingness) - 102K +1K
Rajputana Rifles (Republic of rajputana) - 106K +2K
Carthage and Co (Carthaginian civilization) - 94K +2K
BFP (Belned) - 118K +13K
تصنيع اذرع الشمس (Urukian) - 130K +13K
Mosin and Avtomat Armory (Primorski Krai) - 104K +5K
Guns For Freedom (Legionarya) - 148K +26K
Tengri Seraphim (Khazar lechia) - 78K -9K

SPACE

Stavanger Space Tech (Urukian) - 113K +9K
Urukian Space Repair Service (Urukian) - 105K +8K
U2 Space (Phoenix city of fire) - 110K +2K
Young Industries Civilian Aeronautics Division (Young industries) - 99K +1K
Tokyo Novum Space Industries (Novos romanos) - 111K +5K

BEVERAGES

The Rare Old Mountain Dew (Aussandries) - 60K +9K
Roma-Soda (Romaniche) - 93K +24K
Ecchi-Cola (The Strangers Club) - 70K +14K
Par Biir (The belacian states) - 61K +12K

PROSTITUTION

Meninas Capitalistas (Ofiussia) - 28K +3K

RETAIL

Roma-Nike (Romaniche) - 178K +26K
Strange-Mart (The Strangers Club) - 176K +16K
JP Capitalista (Novos romanos) - 141K +5K

CHEESE EXPORTS

Khan’s Milk Farm (Khazar lechia) - 28K -6K
Romanichean Cheese (Romaniche) - 89K +24K
Tillamook Cheese (Isolationstan) - 62K +9K
Transvaal Dairy (Wabobania) - 39K +1K
Raja Panner Curry (Indoinastan) - 60K +4K
Puic Cheese (Carthaginian civilization) - 40K +1K
La Branzika (Legionarya) - 92K +24K

AGRICULTURE

Khan’s Personal Fields (Khazar lechia) - 56K +6K
Faster Growth (Otterse) - 35K -9K
NR Agriculture (Novos romanos) - 62K +4K
Sodrugestvo (Primorski Krai) - 63K +7K

PHARMACEUTICALS

Sun Pharma (Port ashley) - 13K -18K
University Medicine (Hopal) - 64K +2K
G Pharmaceutics SRL (Gavraska) - 66K +9K

DEFENSE

Cambium Aerospace and Trucks (Port ashley) - 23K-18K
Bunker-Apparatus (Koedric) - 79K +10K
Imperial Armed Defense (Puppet scp fuadation) - 69K -7K
The Red China Army (Commie tebit) - 33K -12K
Golden Wall (The rome empire) - 78K +2K
UAC (Primorski Krai) - 76K +7K

AUTOMOBILES

Scandia Automobiles (Port ashley) - 21K -18K
Satirop (Phoenix city of fire) - 81K +3K
Cars and Stuff (New cica) - 77K +1K
Belton Automotive (Isolationstan) - 86K +3K
Rebirth Motors (Rebirth Island) - 74K +1K
Henry Ford (Legionarya) - 88K +22K

BICYCLES

Belac Bíçiclas (The belacian states) - 82K +9K
H Bikes (Hopal) - 61K +2K

NATURAL GAS

Urukian Natural Gas (Urukian) - 112K +23K

MINING

Urukian Minerals Production (Urukian) - 207K +26K
Novos Romanos Minerals Ltd (Novos romanos) - 182K +4K
Cratersville Mining Ltd (Isolationstan) - 178K +6K

TOURISM

visitBelac (The belacian states) - 130K +13K
Imagine Indoina (Indoinastan) - 118K +3K
TravelDumb (Dumb country) - 96K

GAMBLING

Ugosalinese Casinos (Ugosal) - 116K +4K
Cykas ke liye Kazino (Indoinastan) - 118K +3K
The Rising Sun (The Strangers Club) - 134K +13K

CLOTHING

Seter (Moveyrsearlandez) - 76K -8K

JEWELRY

Lal Ruby (Indoinastan) - 177K +3K

TIMBER WOODCHIPPING

Chipps Chips (Isolationstan) - 95K +9K

FILM AND BOOK PUBLISHING

PAWS Trademark Limited (Indoinastan) - 110K +3K

FILM PUBLISHING

Viking Studios & Dark House Films (El Spana) - 88K +4K
Belac Film Company (The belacian states) - 93K +11K

BASKET WEAVING

Romanichean Festives Stock (Romaniche) - 76K +16K

FLEX SEAL FAMILY OF PRODUCTS

Flex Seal Family of Products (Swiftlandian Peoples Republic) - 206K -3K

BLACK MARKET

River Styx (Draconovox) - 148K +23K
NR Slaves INC (Novos romanos) - 82K +3K

TV PRODUCTION

Anime Production Center (Phoenix city of fire) - 78K +4K
Viva Studios (Latiouthel) 73K +4K

LUMBER

The Spaniard Woodstock (El Spana) - 91K +4K

BARS

Slagger's (The corporate sectors) - 49K +1K

EMPLOYMENT

Workers of the World United (Slavic lechia) - 55K +2K

BROADCASTING

GMA Network (Latiouthel) - 68K +4K

ENERGY

IEG Company Corp (Latiouthel) - 79K +4K
Nuclearrr INC (Novos romanos) - 87K +4K

SOY SAUCE

Sam’s Sauce (Akumanga) - 43K +6K

TRADE

Auchan (Primorski Krai) - 81K +5K
Amorix International (Ethics committee of the scpf) - 75K +4K

TEMPLES

مذابح الشمس (Urukian) - 73K +14K
श्रेकवादी हिंदू धर्म और संथाल मंदिर of മെമ്മുകളും കമ്യൂണിസവും (Indoinastan) - 68K +3K

RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT

Mindon Labs (Mindon) - 78K +2K

FAST F00D

MC doNAlds (Japanese ronald mc donald) - 69K +4K

BROADCASTING

Channel 6 (The belacian states) - 90K +10K

FOOD

Food Heaven (The belacian states) - 73K +9K

RECYCLING

Humans Recycled Co. (Yes humans are recyclable) - 44K +4K

MANUFACTURING

BLC Corporation (Latiouthel) - 83K +5K

MILITARY WEAPONRY

The Naliz Corpotarion (The soldrania) - 88K

VIRGIN GROUP

Virgin Group (A Memer) - 69K

DATA:
THIS WEEK’S LOSSES: $414 Billion
THIS WEEK’S REVENUE: $759 Billion
THIS WEEK’S PROFIT: $345 Billion
TOTAL ALL TIME REVENUE MADE SO FAR: ~$106 Trillion
NATIONS INVOLVED: 57
REGIONS INVOLVED: 19

CURRENT INVESTMENTS:

Aug 16. Aussandries into Aussandries companies, 1 month

Aug 22. The Strangers Club 2 billion into The Strange Mart, 1 month

Aug 25. Urukian 2 billion into Urukian companies +1 billion to Urukian National Gas and Urukian Minerals Co., 1 month

Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Mecham (Isolationstan), 1 month

Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Rapni (Romaniche), 1 month

Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Tillamook Cheese (Isolationstan), 1 month

Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Romanichean Cheese (Romaniche), 1 month

Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Spanabank (El Spana), 1 month

Aug 26. The belacian states into The belacian states companies, 1 month

Aug 26. Legionarya 10 million into Legionarya companies, 1 month

Aug 26. Hopal 3 billion into University Medicine, 1 month

Aug 26. Gavraska 35K into Pristine Urukian Fishing Co., 1 month

Aug 26. Gavraska 1 billion into Gavraska companies, 1 month

Aug 29. The Strangers Club 500 million into MegaSoft (Plus Nova Imperii), 1 month

Aug 29. The Strangers Club 500 million into Anime Production Center (Phoenix city of fire), 1 month

Aug 29. Koedric into BFP (Belned), 1 month

Aug 29. Akumanga 500 million into Sam’s Sauce, 1 month

Aug 29. Urukian 1 billion into تصنيع اذرع الشمس, 1 month

Aug 29. The belacian states 500 million into Chipps Chips (Isolationstan), 1 month

Aug 30. Gavraska 500 million into Khan’s Personal Fields (Khazar lechia), 1 month

Aug 30. Gavraska 500 million into Golden Wall (The rome empire), 1 month

Aug 30. Gavraska 200 million into La Branzika (Legionarya), 1 month

Aug 30. Aussandries 1 billion+ into visitBelac (The belacian states), 1 month

Sep 7. Legionarya 200 million into Legionarya companies, 1 month

Sep 7. Romaniche 150 billion into Romaniche companies, 1 week

Sep 7. Romaniche 50 billion into Emporious (Novos romanos), FN (Belned), BFP (Belned), NRAP (Novos romanos), Guns for Freedom (Legionarya), JP Capitalista (Novos romanos), La Branzinka (Legionarya), 1 week

Sep 7. Plus Nova Imperii into Plus Nova Imperii companies, 1 week

Sep 7. Plus Nova Imperii into Sorianora companies, 1 week

Sep 7. Sorianora into Sorianora companies, 1 week

Sep 7. Sorianora into Plus Nova Imperii companies, 1 week

Sep 7. Koedric into Bunker Apparatus (Koedric) and FN (Belned), 1 week

Sep 7. The Strangers Club 5 billion into The Strangers Club companies, 1 month

Sep 7. The Strangers Club 2 billion into MegaSoft (Puppet States of Plus Nova Imperii), 1 month

Sep 7. The Strangers Club 2 billion into Anime Production Center (Phoenix city of fire), 1 month

IRPSFSM or IRSFADM INVESTMENTS

Sep 7. The soldrania 100 million into Bitterlich (Sturengartz), 1 month (IRPSFSM Company Investment) - Company Ceased to Exist, Investment Firm Payed Back With the Company’s Remaining Value (4 Billion)

SHOP:

Pizza: Increases your companies’ investment deadlines by a month | Cost: 10,000 Stock Points | Renewal Cost: 1,500 Points (Must be paid within a month)

Totem of Undying: Restores a company below 3,000 points back to the stock market with an initial value of 5,000 points | Cost: 0 Points, Message or Telegram to Peepeepoopoocaca (No renewal required)

Chaos Emerald: Increases a company’s value by 10% each week | Cost: 25,000 Points | Renewal Cost: 3,000 Points (Must be paid within a week)

Scooby Snack: Gives you 1,000 free karma points every month | Cost: 5,000 Points | Renewal Cost: 1,000 Points (Must be paid within a month)

OWNED SHARES:

Draconovox: 15% Shares in Mecham (22K), Rapni (21K), Tillamook Cheese (9K), Romanichean Cheese (14K), and Spanabank (23K)

Sorianora: 10% Share in MegaSoft (23K)

Gavraska: 1% Share in Pristine Fishing Co. (760)

The Strangers Club: 15% Share in MegaSoft (34K), and Anime Production Center (12K)

Koedric: 10% Share in BFP (12K)

Romaniche: 20% Share in BFP (24K), Guns For Freedom (30K), FN (21K), Emporious (28K), NRAP (22K), JP Capitalista (28K), La Brazinka (18K)

The belacian states: 10% Share in Chipps Chips (10K)

Gavraska: 10% Share in Khan’s Personal Fields (6K), and Golden Wall (8K)

Gavraska: 5% Share in La Brazinka (5K)

Aussandries: 15% Share in visitBelac (20K)

Indoinastan: 5% Share in U2 Space (6K), Satirop (4K), and Anime Production Center (4K)

Koedric: 10% Share in FN (11K)

SHARES ON SALE/IPOs:

- 10% of jetBank (The belacian states)
- 15% of Par Biir (The belacian states)
- 4% of Belac Film Company (The belacian states)
- 8% of Belac Bíçiclas (The belacian states)

COMPANIES ON SALE:

Here’s where companies who’s country owners have ceased to exist go to be hopefully bought by new countries and return to the stock market

- Bing Software National, Info. Tech Company, Former Owner: Of altonianic islands, Value: 369K

- Wooloo, Arms Manufacturing Company, Former Owner: Wooloo-land, Value: 7K

- Ludwig and Beilschmit, Space Company, Former Owner: Gallar, Value: 95K

- Glorious Potatoes Inc., Agriculture Company, Former Owner: Of altonianic islands Value: 75K

- Haberlin, Military Aircraft Company, Former Owner: Sturengartz Value: 58K

- Brausewetter, Natural Gas Company, Former Owner: Sturengartz Value: 40K

- Sturencabel, Telecommunications Company, Former Owner: Sturengartz Value: 60K

- The Golden Hour, Gambling Company, Former Owner: Gallar Value: 108K

- Billy’s Chicken, Poultry Farms Company, Former Owner: Chicknland Value: 60K

The Duke National Bank (The Rouge Christmas State):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

Pankki Aussandri (Aussandries):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

Sheffield Preudential Bank (Port ashley):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

Pan-Caribbean Bank (Port ashley):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

Natona Banca de’Belac (The belacian states):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

Searland Stock Exchange (Moveyrsearlandez):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

Exchequer (Indoinastan):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

Gazprombank (Primorski Krai):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

SpanaBank (El Spana):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

jetBank (The belacian states):

Loans given out to:
Money deposited:
Current credit to loan ratio: 1 credit point for 100 stock points

COMPANY AWARDS
COMPANY OF THE WEEK: Genos-Aelia company (Romaniche) - 158K
MOST VALUABLE COMPANY: Bing Software National (Of altonianic islands) - 362K

FORMER COMPANIES:
All of these companies are now currently in the Inter Regional Primary Stock and Financial Support Market (IRPSFSM)

- Gòngchǎn Baskets (Commie tebit)
- LS’s Bigmouth (CALLMEDADDYSTRATTON)


COUNTRY PROFILES:

Plus Nova Imperii: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The Rouge Christmas State: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Urukian: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Moveyrsearlandez: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Otterse: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Indoinastan: Karma Multipliter: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Isolationstan: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Mukh: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Novos romanos: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Port ashley: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Arcane the bot: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Edington: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Romaniche: Karma Multipliter: 15K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Callmedaddystratton: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Aussandries: Karma Multipliter: 3K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The belacian states: Karma Multipliter: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Primorski Krai: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Sorianora: Karma Multipliter: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Belned: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Puppet scp fuadation: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Commie tebit: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The greater german austrian empire: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The rome empire: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Pewds supporter: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Democratic republic of nothingness: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Republic of rajputana: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Carthaginian civilization: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Legionarya: Karma Multipliter: 9K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Khazar lechia: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Phoenix city of fire: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Young industries: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The Strangers Club: Karma Multipliter: 8K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Ofiussia: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Wabobania: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Koedric: Karma Multipliter: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
New cica: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Rebirth Island: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Ugosal: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
El Spana: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Swiftlandian Peoples Republic: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Draconovox: Karma Multipliter: 15K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The corporate sectors: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Slavic lechia: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Latiouthel: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Akumanga: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Mindon: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Japanese ronald mc donald: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Hopal: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Gavraska: Karma Multiplier: 6K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Yes humans are recyclable: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Ethics committee of the scpf: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The soldrania: Karma Multiplier: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Dumb country: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
A Memer: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None



JUST A SIDE NOTE, MAKE SURE TO RENEW YOUR INVESTMENTS WEEKLY OR MONTHLY DEPENDING ON YOUR INVESTMENT SIZE. ANYTHING ABOVE 100 BILLION DOLLARS OR AN INVESTMENT WITH AN UNSPECIFIED AMOUNT OF MONEY NEEDS TO BE RENEWED WEEKLY, ANYTHING BELOW NEEDS TO BE RENEWED MONTHLY AT LEAST. NOT RENEWING YOUR INVESTMENT(S) COULD RESULT IN A COMPANY DROPPING SIGNIFICANTLY IN VALUE. TO RENEW YOUR INVESTMENT(S), TELEGRAM ME OR TAG ME IN AN RMB POST PLEASE. THANK YOU


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will be for companies from nations in the Labyrinth’s embassy regions to expand and make more money. Through the stock market, values will determine investments and due to the wide accessibility of this stock market, companies are guaranteed to make at least some sort of profit. The number besides the company is it’s value in the stock market, one point is equal to 1 million Jilars. The money companies earn will not come from the state, instead, they will come from the revenue made from their products, locations, or to put it simply, from the client. In addition, every company on the stock market will get a weekly pay of 100 million Jilars. 85% of the stock market’s profits will go to the companies while 15% will go to PeePeePooPooCaCa. The nation with the largest company in each sector of the market receives a trading card, nations are limited to one card. The card is uncommon if the sector has less than five different nations, rare if it has more than five but less than ten, and epic/legendary if the sector has more than 10 nations. Every investment by a nation into a company that doesn’t belong to them will be rewarded with karma points. The nation receives 1k for an investment lower than 500 million dollars, 2k for an investment between 500 million and 999,999,999, and 3k for an investment above 1 billion. Karma points are transferred to stock points and are added onto the nation’s companies’ values. Nations can also buy power ups to boost companies’ values. There shall be four original power ups, but more can be added by other nations if PeePeePooPooCaCa approves of them. The creator of a new power up can use it for free the first time he or she wants it. Otherwise, all nations wishing to buy a power up should pay its fee using the nation’s companies’ stock points. The nation does not have a bought power up anymore if he or she don’t pay the power up’s renewal fee in time, or PeePeePooPooCaCa decides to terminate the nation’s power up privilege. All power ups shall be bought in the shop down below. This stock market’s plan is to give companies a fair chance and open up in new lands with new markets and new opportunities. This will never be a stock market established due to corporate greed.

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