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meanwhile I'm back at playing dating simulators, anyone want to watch???????????????????????

Indian genius and Brototh

The peoples caribbean union

Cerdenia wrote:meanwhile I'm back at playing dating simulators, anyone want to watch???????????????????????

no but this is comedy gold

Indian genius

Cerdenia wrote:meanwhile I'm back at playing dating simulators, anyone want to watch???????????????????????

alright I'm streaming on the All Nations Against Liberals discord

Indian genius and Brototh

Hulldom wrote:If there's one thing I do want to say about today's events is that it's disappointing to see the Executive be so selective in enforcing our laws. I get that we need to delineate OOC and IC, fully, but the laws that we pass as a region should be that. Their enforcement should be based on whether it violated the law and then whether or not it happened while the person was in the region or in a forum of the region (such as Discord), but the statements by the PM that they refuse to indict PCU but then backed a motion of recall against IG isn't logical consistency, it's favoritism.

I won't comment too much on this because I do agree that PCU should be tried for what he did, as you and I have said before. But there isn't favouritism between IG and PCU. Their situations are different, and I'll explain why in a moment.

Hulldom wrote:Likewise, the communication that I've had with the former Senate Chair and PM wherein they wouldn't back the recall motion and yet backed indictment of PCU is beyond hypocritical.

So for anyone reading this, I am 95% certain he's talking about me. We had a conversation earlier today about the possibility of IG's recall from the House of Commons. I oppose IG's recall because it is a dramatic over-escalation of a situation which has already been dealt with. He has been handed his punishment (a week-long ban from the server) and has apologised profusely for what he did wrong. Recalling is also an IC process, which itself isn't awful, but in this case, I don't feel is necessary nor appropriate. I sincerely think IG didn't mean to come across as he did, he just chose his words *very very very* poorly in an attempt to be philosophical, and I don't think he needs to be punished as severely as an IC recalling for that.

The difference between IG's situation and PCU's is one of context. PCU has a history of doing this - it is why he resigned as an MP after a couple of days in the last House term, and I don't even particularly remember PCU being all that apologetic for his wrongdoings. IG does not have that history, and laid out a very clear apology for what he did.

I do appreciate being publicly called a hypocrite on a public forum when you could have addressed this with me privately in DMs, though.

Hulldom wrote:We absolutely ought to demand better and stop having selective enforcement of our laws depending on who you are. Diz was right and he raises a real issue. Certain people get away with everything and there's never any penalty. We should give second chances if there's a warranted reason, but it is beyond the pale of exception that a first time offender in the region like Diz

Diz was not a first time offender. We repeatedly talked about him in the admin chat for a slew of offences, like breaking the rule about having your nation name as your nickname, for posting anti-LGBTQ+ content in other servers & regions, amongst other things (which I can't think of off the top of my head). We were well within our right to force him to change his PFP (which bore Nazi symbolism, something we absolutely never tolerate here) or escort him from the server.

Hulldom wrote:could be banned from the Discord and yet long-standing and repeat offenders like Cerd get nothing more than a slap on the wrist/hard mute.

He got hard muted for three days. Diz got asked to change his PFP.
Cerd also did not actually realise what he posted was inappropriate as I assume he didn't look at it in detail before posting it. Either way, it was his responsibility to ensure what he posted was appropriate and that didn't come through, so the punishment was going to stand (he has since left the server).

The last part of your message was not addressed to me it seems.

Indian genius, Brototh, Emazia, and Bahnhof

Andusre wrote:~snip~

Doesn't change the fact that the only enforcement on the issue has been Diz and Cerd. And guess what? Not that you need the reminder, our on-site laws are still in effect (at least that is my understanding) on the Discord, so yes, IG deserves being punished IC even for the OOC slip!

I appreciate your agreeing with me on PCU, but it's still hypocrisy imo if we're going to enforce the laws the way they have in the last few months (not that you had a hand in enforcement).

As for Cerd, I made it clear. The sheer level of violations should be enough where he should get the boot. It's not like he's ever tried to change or will.

Indian genius

Wow. This reminds me of the TRP situation. I remember logging on that day and seeing everything blow up.

Hulldom and Indian genius

Hulldom is jealous of how cool I am. It's okay hulldom, if you start now you might still be able to get to my level.

Indian genius, Brototh, and Vjeresland

Cerdenia wrote:Hulldom is jealous of how cool I am. It's okay hulldom, if you start now you might still be able to get to my level.

I've never bothered with being popular and I don't see why I should now.

Indian genius

Hulldom wrote:I've never bothered with being popular and I don't see why I should now.

Sounds like something a jealous person would say.

Indian genius, Brototh, and Olya

And what they say with irony, I say with conviction: What a piece of work is Thaecia! How noble in debate, how infinite in humor! In form and moving how express and admirable! In action how like an angel, in apprehension how like a god!

Taungu, World Trade, Andusre, Indian genius, and 2 othersBroustan, and Emazia

Looks like I have to yet again repeat the whole thing about PCU because it seems no matter how I say it and how many times I say it people are gonna flame and pile up on me
And it seems people are drafting laws aimed at quite literally extracting sensitive info such as private DMs because people are not willing to trust me

First of all, PCU did not troll any poll, there's no evidence nobody has that suggests he did and he himself denied the allegations
What does this mean? It means it won't hold ground in court, it's gonna get rejected, nothing, nada.

Second of all, PCU's telegram history with the founder of Layem was at worst, PCU calling the official a coward.
This was because the official in question didn't want to engage with PCU in a debate over TG about a recruitment telegram.
I agree this was stupid to do but what ended up happening is nothing! The founder popped into Thaecord to let us know what happened and left again, end of the story.

3rd of all, PCU has not intended on impersonating the government, this is what I initially thought after reading the message left behind the Layem founder but PCU has done no impersonation with the account and never in the telegram history with the founder claimed to be representing the Thaecian government, in fact, Zan himself undermined our foreign affairs more than this.

So what does this mean? PCU can only really be sued on grounds for fraud in the Thaecian legal code, something he quite obviously did not attempt, this means his punishment will be at worst get a few days ban from the region if the justices don't take nuances such as this into consideration

I've had it with this region, and some of my cabinet members, taking a 1st class ticket to flaming land, you're coming here on some high horse telling me I'm corrupt and hiding things as well as ignoring my points because you feel some abstract symbolism in a waste of time court case is the most important thing there is.
As someone who was irl work to attend especially in a mid-semester period with an upcoming exam in a subject I struggle with, I have to go above and beyond making sure some waste of time court case gets seen through because someone made a puppet. Get a f*cking grip.

I apologise to PCU with the harsh accusations I made, at worst it was a misunderstanding that happened between 2 individuals and I did not know the full story at the time I made my first post, the court case will less of a punishment than the Executive punishment made.

Taungu, Rhyssua, World Trade, The marconian state, and 8 othersIndian genius, Brototh, Broustan, The Bigtopia, Emazia, Vjeresland, Marvinville, and The peoples caribbean union

The peoples caribbean union

Korsinia wrote:snip

and this is you trust kors, I word things wrong and is bad at explaining

Indian genius and Emazia

Long post detailing crap people said and my opinions on it.

Rhyssua, World Trade, Hulldom, Indian genius, and 3 othersEmazia, Vjeresland, and Prussian sail nation

How ignoble is it that God is mad about being cursed occasionally by vengeful man.

Indian genius

Andusre wrote:

Diz was not a first time offender. We repeatedly talked about him in the admin chat for a slew of offences, like breaking the rule about having your nation name as your nickname

Only did that to point out how you repeatedly let that slide with other people, note Altys, Stonks, Cinema, Kriegs.

Andusre wrote:for posting anti-LGBTQ+ content in other servers & regions

lmao wut

Andusre wrote:amongst other things (which I can't think of off the top of my head).

Probably that time you along with the other admins called me Islamophobic in the "Talk sh*t about the Thaecians we don't like" server in reference to my discussion with ICH about the logical fallacies and historical inaccuracies in the Qur'an and Islamist thinking. Friendly reminder that i have no problem with Muslims, I have made that very clear. One of my best friends IRL is Muslim. I am just anti-religion, but you (collectively) twist that so it looks like I'm a bigot.

Andusre wrote:We were well within our right to force him to change his PFP (which bore Nazi symbolism, something we absolutely never tolerate here) or escort him from the server.

My pfp is literally just a character from an anime. I had it for over a week and you were literally the only person to give a sh*t about it. I actually had a very nice conversation with Kriegs over it and Azur Lane.

Andusre wrote:

He got hard muted for three days. Diz got asked to change his PFP.

Lmao you never asked me to change my pfp, you just went and (de-facto) banned me from the server

So to me, it looks like you were just looking for a reason to get rid of me. I've probably been a real pain in the ass for you and the other admins, considering I call out your crappy moderatorial decisions, call you out on your elitism and hypocrisy, and get (rightfully) upset when I'm just dismissed. Then there's your blatant lack of free speech protection, you let people say their opinions respectfully at first but when they don't agree with yours you get them. You let your own political views come into moderation, you're a massive elitist when it comes to Thaecians, your moderatorial decisions are inconsistent and often random, hell, you got rid of the Givers with an hours notice. Not to mention how punishing people is often turned personal, who do you like/who do you not, not based on the actual offences. But yada yada yada "The server is muh private property" and you can do with it whatever you like and run it however you want, but that server is such a big part of Thaecia that sh*t happening there is translated to the site where it actually matters.

But hey, at least you got Bahn.

Hulldom and Indian genius

You should ban Kriegs for his pfp too, Andy

Cause his picture has a Kriegsmarine hat in it too and is also on the Bismarck

Oh yeah and his name was literally Kriegsmarine

Your decisions and moderation choices are biased and unfair. No wonder people get pissed at you.

Indian genius

:popcorn:

Indian genius

My pfp is me and ur mum

World Trade, Indian genius, Brototh, and Vjeresland

Cerdenia wrote:My pfp is me and ur mum

This is why the new yellow empire is superior to thaecia

Cerdenia, Indian genius, and Vjeresland

i am drafting a new law page=dispatch/id=1432358

Indian genius and The peoples caribbean union

Thaecian millitary

Brototh wrote:i am drafting a new law page=dispatch/id=1432358

this is ilegal, as it does nothing

-PCU doing wa parody

Indian genius

Thaecian millitary wrote:this is ilegal, as it does nothing

-PCU doing wa parody

Can you actually get off of this account, it's just going to start drama

World Trade, The marconian state, Hulldom, Indian genius, and 3 othersTitanne, Lemonadia, and Emazia

So how is everyone’s day outside of, Erm, this?

Indian genius

The peoples caribbean union

Brototh wrote:Can you actually get off of this account, it's just going to start drama

how?

Indian genius

The peoples caribbean union wrote:how?

It’s an account that is a core part of the 2nd Thaecian Explosion.

Indian genius

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