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Why are we doing this poll for?

Clicktopia wrote:That's their choice. Everyone should choose whether or not they do anything. Nothing should be mandatory.

The problem is that it negatively affects those around them. Anti-vaxxers can be lethal, so it is more important that everyone gets vaccinated, at least if they have any intention of participating in society.

Of arian hellas

The united provinces of north america

The wasatch wrote:The problem is that it negatively affects those around them. Anti-vaxxers can be lethal, so it is more important that everyone gets vaccinated, at least if they have any intention of participating in society.

Fun fact: Anti vaxxers can build up immunity, while a Vaxxer would get sick plus possibly die. I haven't gotten a flu shot in a three year's, to test it out. I haven't got sick, only a week I was sick. But not bad enough to almost kill me. After I got my flu shot and a year later, I literally almost died. But I self medicated and warded off the flu, but let's see how this year's flu season goes. So I agree with @Clicktopia.

The united provinces of north america wrote:Fun fact: Anti vaxxers can build up immunity, while a Vaxxer would get sick plus possibly die. I haven't gotten a flu shot in a three year's, to test it out. I haven't got sick, only a week I was sick. But not bad enough to almost kill me. After I got my flu shot and a year later, I literally almost died. But I self medicated and warded off the flu, but let's see how this year's flu season goes. So I agree with @Clicktopia.

You do know how vaccines work, right? Vaccines are both scientifically and statistically demonstrated to be much safer than not receiving a vaccine.

The greatest bestest nation

The united provinces of north america wrote:Fun fact: Anti vaxxers can build up immunity, while a Vaxxer would get sick plus possibly die. I haven't gotten a flu shot in a three year's, to test it out. I haven't got sick, only a week I was sick. But not bad enough to almost kill me. After I got my flu shot and a year later, I literally almost died. But I self medicated and warded off the flu, but let's see how this year's flu season goes. So I agree with @Clicktopia.

The point is that if you get a flu vaccine, you can't get the flu (unless the flu evolves or something, in which case you get another shot.) If you get the flu, you could pass it on to someone else who may not have a strong enough immune system to deal with it/can't get flu shots for whatever reason. In that case, you are putting people in danger.

Vostrov, Archargentina, and The wasatch

The united provinces of north america

The greatest bestest nation wrote:The point is that if you get a flu vaccine, you can't get the flu (unless the flu evolves or something, in which case you get another shot.) If you get the flu, you could pass it on to someone else who may not have a strong enough immune system to deal with it/can't get flu shots for whatever reason. In that case, you are putting people in danger.

I am not against flu shots. But I put myself to the test, I literally almost died two years ago. Strong coughing, fatigue, sweating, I literally had lay in my bed for two weeks. My nose wasn't the same for three months until scent seemed new to me. Even after the blunt of the cold was over, I still had fatigue and sweating. But I self medicated, last year I didn't get sick. Only a small runny nose that lasted about three days. I ate healthy and hygienic. Works wonders.

The united provinces of north america

The wasatch wrote:You do know how vaccines work, right? Vaccines are both scientifically and statistically demonstrated to be much safer than not receiving a vaccine.

Yes I do, and I am not a Anti-vaxxer. Just wanted to put myself to the test. Eating healthy and being hygienic can go a long way.

The greatest bestest nation

The united provinces of north america wrote:I am not against flu shots. But I put myself to the test, I literally almost died two years ago. Strong coughing, fatigue, sweating, I literally had lay in my bed for two weeks. My nose wasn't the same for three months until scent seemed new to me. Even after the blunt of the cold was over, I still had fatigue and sweating. But I self medicated, last year I didn't get sick. Only a small runny nose that lasted about three days. I ate healthy and hygienic. Works wonders.

Some people do have bad reactions to the flu shot, which is why the people who don't have bad reactions to the flu shot have to get it.

The greatest bestest nation wrote:We have a new Question of the Day! Today's question is: What type of people do you hate the most?

Also, putting up a new poll atm.

Boy, did this question ever spark a lot of discussion! Well, now it’s my turn to answer it:

People who are just plain annoying and/or dishonest and won’t stop doing whatever it is that’s bothering you when you ask them to. I’m not pointing fingers at anyone in NS, however I’m sure that there are plenty of people who are like that on this site. I’m instead basing my answer off of real-life experience.

The united provinces of north america and Ulymein

The united provinces of north america

My Nation wrote:Boy, did this question ever spark a lot of discussion! Well, now it’s my turn to answer it:

People who are just plain annoying and/or dishonest and won’t stop doing whatever it is that’s bothering you when you ask them to. I’m not pointing fingers at anyone in NS, however I’m sure that there are plenty of people who are like that on this site. I’m instead basing my answer off of real-life experience.

Typical Canadian *America pushes nuke button!* JK. Yeah I agree with you too!

The greatest bestest nation wrote:We have a new Question of the Day! Today's question is: What type of people do you hate the most?

Also, putting up a new poll atm.

Principally, extremists, you can't discuss with them, it doesn't matter if they're conservatives, progressives, communists and some ancaps, they're just so annoying.

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The wasatch wrote:The problem is that it negatively affects those around them. Anti-vaxxers can be lethal, so it is more important that everyone gets vaccinated, at least if they have any intention of participating in society.

That's a very authoritarian notion. Surely if you're vaccinated you're ok it doesn't matter whether the person sitting next to you on the train is vaccinated or not?

Clicktopia wrote:That's a very authoritarian notion. Surely if you're vaccinated you're ok it doesn't matter whether the person sitting next to you on the train is vaccinated or not?

OOC: Certain populations, e.g. cancer patients or very young children, can't be vaccinated because of weakened immune systems and therefore rely on herd immunity (i.e. everyone else who can be vaccinated) to stay uninfected.

Zazann

The greatest bestest nation wrote:We have a new Question of the Day! Today's question is: What type of people do you hate the most?

Also, putting up a new poll atm.

I hate juice.

The united provinces of north america, Zazann, and Ulymein

Nihonato wrote:OOC: Certain populations, e.g. cancer patients or very young children, can't be vaccinated because of weakened immune systems and therefore rely on herd immunity (i.e. everyone else who can be vaccinated) to stay uninfected.

I don't see how someone unable to be vaccinated is somehow less of a vulnerability to those who refuse to be vaccinated.
The best thing you can do in those circumstances if you do fall into this category is, for example, require people who come in contact with you to be vaccinated.

The greatest bestest nation

Clicktopia wrote:I don't see how someone unable to be vaccinated is somehow less of a vulnerability to those who refuse to be vaccinated.
The best thing you can do in those circumstances if you do fall into this category is, for example, require people who come in contact with you to be vaccinated.

The problem is that those who refuse to be vaccinated are a danger to those who can't vaccinate, as those who don't vaccinate can get an illness/disease and pass it on to someone who is at risk of dying to it and was unable to vaccinate against it.

For example, if my immune system sucks, and you refuse to vaccinate, you can get the flu and pass it on to me. Since my immune system sucks, and I couldn't vaccinate, I would die to the flu because you passed it to me. If you got vaccinated, you would have never gotten the flu, and would have never passed it to me, preventing me from dying.

My Nation and Zazann

Clicktopia wrote:I don't see how someone unable to be vaccinated is somehow less of a vulnerability to those who refuse to be vaccinated.
The best thing you can do in those circumstances if you do fall into this category is, for example, require people who come in contact with you to be vaccinated.

Yeah! Require all of your child's classmates to be vaccinated.
Oh, wait.

The united world organization

The greatest bestest nation

We have a new list of Endorsees of the Day! Today's list is:
Litochuv
Avonto
Banderavskaya rus
Denui

We are still talking about the last Question of the Day, so probably don't need a new one yet.

The united world organization and Zazann

Clicktopia wrote:That's a very authoritarian notion. Surely if you're vaccinated you're ok it doesn't matter whether the person sitting next to you on the train is vaccinated or not?

Just because a notion is a bit authoritarian doesn't mean it is bad. It does matter if you are unvaccinated or have a week immune system that the person next to you is vaccinated.

Khomney wrote:Yeah! Require all of your child's classmates to be vaccinated.
Oh, wait.

No, that's a ridiculously arrogant way of doing things.

The united provinces of north america

Clicktopia wrote:
No, that's a ridiculously arrogant way of doing things.

That's already happening they dont let you go to school if your not vaccinated.

Zazann

Our Minister of Defense, Onofria, has left the region.

The western germanic union

The western germanic union

My Nation wrote:Our Minister of Defense, Onofria, has left the region.

Oh dear

The RMB here seems really active, would be great if we could bring some of this activity to the Discord server? :D

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