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So, for the future of Mokov I intend to have a sort of communist monarchy, hypocritical as that sounds. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to pull that off?

Mokov wrote:So, for the future of Mokov I intend to have a sort of communist monarchy, hypocritical as that sounds. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to pull that off?

Well communism at its core is simply an economic system where a nations economy is under complete control by its government, so theoretically a monarchy could instill communism in their nation.
It just hasn’t ever happened in real life to my knowledge, since most regimes have justified implementing communism by claiming that it’s more more free and equal to the people then former governments, and making monarchies/other authoritarian regimes out to be their enemy.

Solaryia wrote:That seems really cool, I'd love to join!

Just TG me what you would like your involvement to be.

Mokov wrote:So, for the future of Mokov I intend to have a sort of communist monarchy, hypocritical as that sounds. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to pull that off?

One could argue that the DPRK has had three generations of monarchs as of now, but isn't officially recognized as such. A monarch is someone who has been marked as someone with a divine lineage.

Balnik wrote:


Baetylus 2000VC04 Impact Event


Baetylus 2000VC04, commonly referred to as Baetylus approximately 400 meters in diameter and responsible for the Baetylus 2000VC04 Impact Event that occured in 2001.

Dr Adolf Marner while being with the Space Administration of Balnik (SAB), first discovered Baetylus on November 12th, 2000, further research was conducted across the isles with its primary observer being the Balniki Aerospace Institute. Further research predicted that the asteroid's orbit would cross the Earth's, making it a potentially hazardous object (PHO).

Two months later on January 6th, the Balniki Aerospace Institute announced the appearance of the asteroid and its high probability of striking the planet with Gael and Eastern Argus projected to suffer the most damage. Due to the time restraints the nations of the Isles had to prepare and the scattered nature of the nations within Aerospace treaties, the asteroid entered the atmosphere as predicted on December 3rd, 2001. Within a week 50,000 lives were lost in Balnik alone, plunging the country into unrest.

Discovery and Pre-Impact

Researchers at the Space Administration of Balnik led by Dr Adolf Marner, discovered Baetylus in November, 2000. Further research conducted by the Balniki Aerospace Institute using computer simulations concluded that Baetylus would impact enter the Roche limit on December 3rd, 2001. Although the asteroid was wide it was speculated that the composition of the asteroid was weak and fragile with most of the fragments burning up in the atmosphere. However it was predicted that debris that did make it through would strike from the north to central Isles.

The BAI reported this to its parent branch, the Armed Forces of Balnik, which the was reported directly to Andre Chernobog, leader of the nation. Chernobog decided to hold onto this information for two months to assess the validity and accuracy of the findings and to not cause panic and disarray within the populace and nations.

On January 6th, 2000, Director of the BAI, Dr. Rovič Belgradi, disclosed the information of the impending impact to the public and a press release that shook citizens all over Balnik. Chernobog, predicting that the nations of the world would not be able to cooperate and form a defensive measure, and given the time limit, envisioned a shelter program to be acted out all across the major urban areas of the nation. The program fell short of its intended goals, with shelters only being build in Rustov, Zokol, Kayan, Zojina, and Chernogreb, each one capable of holding 50,000 to 100,000 persons.

Impact and Aftermath.


Clockwise from top left; Ostrov Island Crater, Pride Crater in Cinnigrad, Kotlumi Crater, Zeleny Crater.

As predicted, on December 3rd, 2001, Baetylus broke through the Roche limit. The asteroid spent two days orbiting the planet at a decaying rate before plummeting into the atmosphere, breaking apart into fragments that burnt in the atmosphere, with some, breaking through and crashing into the Southern Sea. Unfortunately some fragments struck land, with Balnik bearing the heaviest of the bombardment, with 4 craters hitting the Kotlumi mountains, The Zeleny Forest, Ostrov Island, and the most devastating being Cinnigrad, which plunged the downtown area into the sea and destroyed the majority of the city. 50,000 civilians were killed in Balnik and many more went to become refugees. In Townside a stray piece that orbited the planet came down and struck land, creating Fei Hua Lake with minimal casualties. In Dormill and Stiura, stray orbital fragments hit the country with unknown casualties. the 6th of December the last fragment crashed into the Lotus sea, ending the bombardment and reign of Baetylus.

The aftermath of the impacts weighed down on Balnik as the nation struggled to recover, Cinnigrad, a major industrial and economic hub for the city, was destroyed, and the nation faced a material shortage as its resources went to construction of the shelters. Aid did come in from Altera, Segentova, and Townside, this prevented the nation from collapsing completely but also supported the Fascist government. This resulted in mass unrest and unprecedented political upheaval. The impacts eventually led to Operation Operation Cleaning of Stained Floors, of which paramilitary forces belonging to the Balniki National Socialist Party, detained and executed several armed forces leaders in fear of an imminent coup. Chernobog consolidated his power and directed the hatred among the populace towards Gael, citing their neglect during the strikes and exploitation during the Gael Economic Crash.

The end of 2000 and all of 2001 would be marked by the discovery of the Near-Earth Asteroid Baetylus 2000VC04 and the further discovery of a possible impact event. President Granger, in a then unprecedented move, coordinated with the Balniki government and that of multiple other Isles nations to respond to the crisis, leading the formation of an impromptu council of nations as a forum to respond to the impending crisis. When the news broke that the asteroid had a high likelihood of impacting within Gael, Congress initially debated the veracity of the information given its Balniki source, but was soon convinced when the Doraltic Space Sciences Institute and United Republics Air Force Space Service corroborated the Balniki and Magrati reports, confirming the near certainty that the asteroid would intersect Earth’s orbit low enough that it could pass through the Roche Limit and break up.

Knowledge and fear in hand, Congress quickly passed legislation to redirect federal funds into a “Doraltic National Emergency Response Fund” and direct the United Republics Army to begin construction of shelters across the nation to house as much of the population as possible in the event an impactor struck major population centers. In order to ease the building national panic, the Granger Government spent enormous time and effort on various campaigns to assure the public that the asteroid is not large enough to survive atmospheric entry and that any possible fragments would be too small to pose a threat to national integrity. The resulting economic slowdown caused by the initial panic combined with a market that was falling apart did serious damage to Granger’s overall status as President, dipping well under 45% approval by the nation in mid-August through early September, with elements of the Doraltic right wing casting doubt at the threat Baetylus posed to the nation and the proportion of response the federal government provided.

By September, tracking of Baetylus and its possible fragments painted a grim picture for Dormill and Stiura, with its largest population centers in Kapolder, Boissieux, and Launey all at risk for direct impacts as powerful as a nuclear bomb. By then, the Army had completed enough shelters across the nation to house up to 3 million people for the entire week of the expected impact, these shelters were focused primarily in the urban areas surrounding the Kapolder Bay. In addition to the underground shelters, the Army had also constructed or made plans to requisition the use of several post-impact shelters, mostly to process the people who could not enter an underground bunker or lost property in the impacts themselves. When the Congress prepared to enter recess at the end of October 2001, President Granger exercised for the first and so far only time the Presidential power to compel the continued attendance of Congress, seeking to pass further legislation relating to the crisis and calm concerns from the public that Congress would abandon Cour Rouge for other destinations to ride out the impacts.

By November, the predicted path of impact was solidly confirmed and preparations began to wind down, further construction of impact shelters would cease by mid-November, the Army claiming that it would be impossible to complete further meaningful work before Impact Day in early December. When impacts began on 6 December, millions of Dormill-Stiuraians huddled in impact shelters across the nation, fearing the worst as news filtered in of impacts across the Southern Sea and then Balnik.

Ultimately, there would be seven total major impacts across Dormill and Stiura, with several more minor impacts. The closest any impactor would reach a major population center was the first, impacting over a hundred kilometers from the city of Temple, while the most severe impact would be Van Curan Valley meteorite, with an equivalent energy output of 700+kt of TNT. As a result of the following Earthquakes, a significant part of Temple, Broons, and Enoire were damaged or destroyed and up to 5000 people lost their lives in the immediate week following, mostly from injuries sustained from collapsing structures in Temple and Broons. In the end, the United Republics suffered a billion dollars in damaged and destroyed property, 9418 dead from the immediate impact and events relating directly to them, and several million hectares of burned or glassed land.

As 2001 finally ended, Dormill and Stiura threw itself headfirst into the international reconstruction effort, sending the bulk of funds saved up from the National Emergency Relief Fund allocated to international aid to Balnik, alongside dedicating several waves of economic stimulus across Gael to restart national economies. This provided a significant political win to Doraltic Conservatives, who advocated now would be the perfect time for the government to get its foot off the neck of the economy, and allow the free market to reset itself. Given the options, President Granger reluctantly agreed to a massive spending bill that saw the Doraltic Government continue pumping money into the nation to kickstart the economy, but also made significant tax cuts, especially to the uppermost individual brackets and across the board regarding business incomes. The 2002 Spending Bill also included ride-alongs that loosened restrictions that aimed to cede control of the Doraltic economy to private interests.

Simultaneous to these efforts, Dormill and Stiura also reaffirmed its commitment to RTEA and sought out agreements to ease economic barriers, efforts which would eventually bear fruit in the form of several bilateral and multilateral trade agreements across the Isles. However, the crisis would not be averted, as the sudden and severe shock the nation took would bring tensions previously left behind back to the surface.

Today the impacts have etched themselves into history, both cultural and physically, with craters being a ubiquitous feature of Balnik and the sight of a destroyed Cinnigrad being a national symbol of loss and mourning.
December 6th is regarded as holiday and day of remembrance and grieving for those that lost their lives, homes, friends, and family.

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This is still a thing if anyone wants to get involved.

Conveniently, I planned for Townisde's only major lake - Fei Hua Lake - to have been an impact crater.

You can read about it here: page=dispatch/id=1411336#lake

My original plan was for the small lake to have been enlarged in the 1100s by a meteor impact. But since you've got this I could always delay it by nine centuries :D

Only problem is that Townisde lies way outside the fragment impact zone. Any chance a stray fragment could have made its way to Townisde to enlarge my lake?

Also would be nice to get involved in any other way, e.g. space administration etc.

Mokov wrote:So, for the future of Mokov I intend to have a sort of communist monarchy, hypocritical as that sounds. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to pull that off?

Check out the State of Cambodia (1989 to 1993) it was a communist nation, in which the head of state held the title of Prince, later King.

Townside wrote:Conveniently, I planned for Townisde's only major lake - Fei Hua Lake - to have been an impact crater.

You can read about it here: page=dispatch/id=1411336#lake

My original plan was for the small lake to have been enlarged in the 1100s by a meteor impact. But since you've got this I could always delay it by nine centuries :D

Only problem is that Townisde lies way outside the fragment impact zone. Any chance a stray fragment could have made its way to Townisde to enlarge my lake?

Also would be nice to get involved in any other way, e.g. space administration etc.

Sure. We could say that a piece broke off and orbited before crashing into Townside. TG me any ideas you have for a space agency.

Alteran Republics wrote:I definitely would like to get involved. This sort of thing would propel the isles into developing countermeasures - surely?

Well if you're getting hit then I have to get hit, too. Don't i?

Post self-deleted by Segentova.

Mokov wrote:So, for the future of Mokov I intend to have a sort of communist monarchy, hypocritical as that sounds. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to pull that off?

Constitutional monarchy where the people simply elected a communist party to rule?
It happened in Norway back in the 30s when our labor party were still a member of the Comintern. It just didn't last.
You'll need to find a reason for the commies not to kick out the monarch, however. If it's a constitutional monarchy I simply suggest that you have them not need to do it as the monarch is more of a figurehead to begin with.

Segentova wrote:Constitutional monarchy where the people simply elected a communist party to rule?
It happened in Norway back in the 30s when our labor party were still a member of the Comintern. It just didn't last.
You'll need to find a reason for the commies not to kick out the monarch, however. If it's a constitutional monarchy I simply suggest that you have them not need to do it as the monarch is more of a figurehead to begin with.

When the monarch is a Stalin kind of figure who supports the communist party, it could happen. It would require a strong cultus around the royal family as an essential part of Mokovian communism.

Nhoor wrote:When the monarch is a Stalin kind of figure who supports the communist party, it could happen. It would require a strong cultus around the royal family as an essential part of Mokovian communism.

So basically N. Korea

Also looking for stuff to add to my military especially new tech I already teased Looking into haptics and vr training but is there Anything new that could be interesting?

Nhoor wrote:When the monarch is a Stalin kind of figure who supports the communist party, it could happen. It would require a strong cultus around the royal family as an essential part of Mokovian communism.

if it is an absolutist monarchy or the monarch somehow retains direct political authority. But a monarch as a communist dictator, that'd just be weird... Then again, they didn't call Stalin The Red Tsar for nothing, either.

Havalland wrote:So basically N. Korea

well l I guess... If we're going to be hella reductionist...

Havalland wrote:So basically N. Korea

Yes, but officially a monarchy. The country could have had a monarchical tradition until one king decided to adopt communism to reinforce the power of the royal family and use it to suppress more liberal/democratic ideas towards a constitutional monarchy. Or something like that.

Segentova, weird perhaps, but there are far weirder things in the world.

Nhoor wrote:Yes, but officially a monarchy. The country could have had a monarchical tradition until one king decided to adopt communism to reinforce the power of the royal family and use it to suppress more liberal/democratic ideas towards a constitutional monarchy. Or something like that.

Segentova, weird perhaps, but there are far weirder things in the world.

I don't know about that. An absolutist monarch who is also a communist dictator?
I mean sure, communist dictators that also act as absolutists monarchs are nothing new... Many dictatorships become quasi-monarchical if they can manage to exist for more than a generation. But a king who is also a communist? Color me confused.

Segentova wrote:I don't know about that. An absolutist monarch who is also a communist dictator?

Stalin basically was an absolutist monarch. Communism was just used as a tool to get and keep power.

Power to the people > the people are the state > "l'état, c'est moi" > the king is the people

Of course the king is not really a communist; it's just convenient that people believe he is

Balnik wrote:Hmmmmm

https://youtu.be/LF030SKoeCA?t=128

I loved Stonehenge - one of the more believable bits of Strangereal tech. I'd love if it could become a thing - or at least, RP some initial plans our collective nations had before/after Big-B hit.

Segentova wrote:Well if you're getting hit then I have to get hit, too. Don't i?

We may get a smattering of light NEOs, but we miss the bulk of it. I actually was thinking of my government wanting to play a role prior to the impact (if it had hit the planet slightly differently, it would have hit us ... ) and the fallout AFTER impact alone would be devastating for all, especially those economies close to one another.

Havalland wrote:Also looking for stuff to add to my military especially new tech I already teased Looking into haptics and vr training but is there Anything new that could be interesting?

Two words; wingman drones.

We seriously need to bring back long coats for men. I bought a vintage Burberry off of Ebay and all I can say is it feels good to not get my thighs and knees soaked in the rain anymore!

Wellsia, Alteran Republics, Nhoor, Martenyika, and 3 othersSolaryia, Serpens land, and Massie

Segentova wrote:We seriously need to bring back long coats for men. I bought a vintage Burberry off of Ebay and all I can say is it feels good to not get my thighs and knees soaked in the rain anymore!

On one of my infrequent visits to Facebook, an ad recommended buying a cloak - a company that specialised in modern cloaks.

I was somewhat tempted but realised it wouldn't fit into my usual work apparel. You know the one; suit, tie, bowler hat and umbrella.

Segentova wrote:We seriously need to bring back long coats for men. I bought a vintage Burberry off of Ebay and all I can say is it feels good to not get my thighs and knees soaked in the rain anymore!

I have a long formal coat that I've worn for years, its one of the most comfortable things that I own.

Segentova wrote:We seriously need to bring back long coats for men. I bought a vintage Burberry off of Ebay and all I can say is it feels good to not get my thighs and knees soaked in the rain anymore!

I want that. I saw a second hand leather military one I liked in the military museum at Akershus Festning in 2002 but I was too poor back then...

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