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Dear nations,

Please give your opinions on the recent bill tabled by Trivian in India Parliament House. Your opinion matters a lot.

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Section 9 States

Any W.A Delegate who has held Office for Two Consecutive Terms cannot stand for W.A Elections for a Direct Third Electorial Session. A Nation can stand for Re- Election to Third Term after a Term finished by another Nation as to maintain the Power Neutrality Convention.

Read factbook

Indusse, Zealandiana, Neo Kerala, Indus Valley Civilization, and 1 otherHindu mahasabha

Sabhapati rajya wrote:Dear nations,

Please give your opinions on the recent bill tabled by Trivian in India Parliament House. Your opinion matters a lot.

Article - 1

Add - Section 9

Section 9 States

Any W.A Delegate who has held Office for Two Consecutive Terms cannot stand for W.A Elections for a Direct Third Electorial Session. A Nation can stand for Re- Election to Third Term after a Term finished by another Nation as to maintain the Power Neutrality Convention.

Read factbook

I can't post there but I agree with Hindu mahasabha that this amendment would limit democracy rather than uphold it. The Delegate position is not one that any nation can or would do well and a talented delegate is a good hallmark of a strong region. Losing a good delegate that has the support of the electorate just to comply with a term limit seems nonsensical to me.

Indusse, Trivian, Neo Kerala, and Hindu mahasabha

Veaetmar wrote:Brother Trivian, thank you for your warm welcome

I like this concept and have some thoughts about how we can integrate it into some of the existing processes of regional government a little more. I'd be glad to share them with the voting members of Parliament to see if they could be presented as a Bill.

-V

Great to have you here!
I look forward to great times together!

Veaetmar

Hindu mahasabha wrote:Foreign Ministry Notification:

It has come to our notice that the region, Glorious Nations Of Iwaku has certain elements of Fascism being entertained in their region, the prime example being, the word 'Fascist' in the name of their Founder.

Further, it has come to my notice, that the citizens had disrespected our Hon'ble member Indusse a few days ago on their RMB. The Government of Iwaku too was reluctant to take any action.

Further, our regions don't share a much diplomatic/friendly ties, therefore the Foreign Ministry is considering to close embassies with them, before waiting for a short span of time to gain inputs from a couple of nations.

Cc:Hindu puri
Awell islands

Yes, embassies must be closed.
They have no diplomatic importance with us anyways and so it should be closed at the earliest as we don’t need that kind of stuff in India.

Indusse and Trivian

@trivian
in my view, i think a WAD limit is never ever good for a region. i stand with vaetmar's opinion.

Awell islands, Hindu puri, Trivian, Veaetmar, and 1 otherWhole india

Hey guys this is bad!!! nations like vaetmar and me who arent part of the adminstration are not able to post in the parliament rmb. i request you to change it asap.

Awell islands, Trivian, and Veaetmar

Hindu mahasabha

Indusse wrote:Hey guys this is bad!!! nations like vaetmar and me who arent part of the adminstration are not able to post in the parliament rmb. i request you to change it asap.

Okay

Indusse, Awell islands, and Trivian

Post by Greenwaters suppressed by a moderator.

I understand the concern raised by Honourable Member of the Region .But Let us clear that Region of India has quite Good amount of Supporters from I.D.F Party. This mean that the chances of electing Hindu Puri is always on Higher Side. This would ultimately lead to a One Party System Functionary Just Like in China and morever someday some Members might feel that the Democratic Assertions are being Curtailed.
I haven't said that A Nation can't stand for Re- Elections but only after a Term finished by another Nation that means For Eg Awell islands can be nominated for a Proxy from I.D.F Party or whoever wins the Election can lead the W.A Delegacy.
Hindu Puri can stand for next two consecutive Elections after that Substitute Period.

Indusse and Awell islands

Hindu mahasabha

Trivian wrote:I understand the concern raised by Honourable Member of the Region .But Let us clear that Region of India has quite Good amount of Supporters from I.D.F Party. This mean that the chances of electing Hindu Puri is always on Higher Side. This would ultimately lead to a One Party System Functionary Just Like in China and morever someday some Members might feel that the Democratic Assertions are being Curtailed.
I haven't said that A Nation can't stand for Re- Elections but only after a Term finished by another Nation that means For Eg Awell islands can be nominated for a Proxy from I.D.F Party or whoever wins the Election can lead the W.A Delegacy.
Hindu Puri can stand for next two consecutive Elections after that Substitute Period.

1.IDF and BJS has equal number of supporters.

2. If IDF has really large number of supporters, then no matter who the candidate is IDF will again win the election, leading to your one party theory.

3. WAD Elections are different from normal elections, they are carried out via endorsements and only WA Nations are eligible for it, further WAD Elections are not party based elections.

Indusse, Awell islands, Veaetmar, and Whole india

Post self-deleted by Indusse.

Hindu mahasabha

Trivian wrote:I understand the concern raised by Honourable Member of the Region .But Let us clear that Region of India has quite Good amount of Supporters from I.D.F Party. This mean that the chances of electing Hindu Puri is always on Higher Side. This would ultimately lead to a One Party System Functionary Just Like in China and morever someday some Members might feel that the Democratic Assertions are being Curtailed.
I haven't said that A Nation can't stand for Re- Elections but only after a Term finished by another Nation that means For Eg Awell islands can be nominated for a Proxy from I.D.F Party or whoever wins the Election can lead the W.A Delegacy.
Hindu Puri can stand for next two consecutive Elections after that Substitute Period.

WAD Elections are not party based.

Awell islands

Hindu mahasabha wrote:WAD Elections are not party based.

Actually, yes they are as decided in the past.
But independent people are also allowed.

Indusse and Hindu mahasabha

The WAD elections are not party based election. Not only that currently Awell islands has just 2 endorsement's less than hindu puri which shows that awell has chance to be the next WAD and i think that there can be more than 2 candidates in total. i.e. from I.D.F. whole india is also standing in WAD elections so,this election can witness more than 2 candidates from same party.

Whole india

Indusse wrote:The WAD elections are not party based election. Not only that currently Awell islands has just 2 endorsement's less than hindu puri which shows that awell has chance to be the next WAD and i think that there can be more than 2 candidates in total. i.e. from I.D.F. whole india is also standing in WAD elections so,this election can witness more than 2 candidates from same party.

I agree

Trivian wrote:I understand the concern raised by Honourable Member of the Region .But Let us clear that Region of India has quite Good amount of Supporters from I.D.F Party. This mean that the chances of electing Hindu Puri is always on Higher Side. This would ultimately lead to a One Party System Functionary Just Like in China and morever someday some Members might feel that the Democratic Assertions are being Curtailed.
I haven't said that A Nation can't stand for Re- Elections but only after a Term finished by another Nation that means For Eg Awell islands can be nominated for a Proxy from I.D.F Party or whoever wins the Election can lead the W.A Delegacy.
Hindu Puri can stand for next two consecutive Elections after that Substitute Period.

I actually support this now that you explain it this way. I support this bill. It leads to a better democracy as well which is always my goal. That way, new idea should and views can come into India and it is basically like term limits.

Hindu mahasabha

Just take the example of RL India, BJP is clean sweeping in every state, does that mean India is becoming China or a One Party state? No, people are simply choosing Brand Modi as he is really doing a good job, if he wasn't doing anything, people would have simply voted him out like Congress.

Awell islands wrote:Actually, yes they are as decided in the past.
But independent people are also allowed.

I am totally against party based elections. WAD elections will be available only through endorsements not polls and if party based elections with polls continue i am anyway gonna boycott this election.

Hindu mahasabha

Indusse wrote:The WAD elections are not party based election. Not only that currently Awell islands has just 2 endorsement's less than hindu puri which shows that awell has chance to be the next WAD and i think that there can be more than 2 candidates in total. i.e. from I.D.F. whole india is also standing in WAD elections so,this election can witness more than 2 candidates from same party.

Whole India isn't standing from IDF.
WAD elections are an unofficial party based elections meaning that the parties are there but don't really affect it as much as the other admin elections we just conducted

Hindu mahasabha

Awell islands wrote:I actually support this now that you explain it this way. I support this bill. It leads to a better democracy as well which is always my goal. That way, new idea should and views can come into India and it is basically like term limits.

But again, we cannot really have control over it, as the law is set by Nirupama, any WA Nation (Citizen) can fight elections as many times he likes.

So it is in vain to discuss the Bill.

Trivian wrote:I understand the concern raised by Honourable Member of the Region .But Let us clear that Region of India has quite Good amount of Supporters from I.D.F Party. This mean that the chances of electing Hindu Puri is always on Higher Side. This would ultimately lead to a One Party System Functionary Just Like in China and morever someday some Members might feel that the Democratic Assertions are being Curtailed.
I haven't said that A Nation can't stand for Re- Elections but only after a Term finished by another Nation that means For Eg Awell islands can be nominated for a Proxy from I.D.F Party or whoever wins the Election can lead the W.A Delegacy.
Hindu Puri can stand for next two consecutive Elections after that Substitute Period.

I oppose this bill if anyone WAD works really hard and brings development for the betterment of his region then after two terms he doesn't has the right to stand?? why?? for democracy??

i am making my view clear. i agree with trivians bill but, there cannot be any party based elections for WAD.

Hindu mahasabha and Whole india

Indusse wrote:I am totally against party based elections. WAD elections will be available only through endorsements not polls and if party based elections with polls continue i am anyway gonna boycott this election.

That is what I am saying. I think we are trying to say the same thing except my method of explained just sucks lol.

Basically, the endorsement method is still there as that is th only way WAD elections are done here in India. The party based system is just that there is better connections and ideologies of that's person.

Indusse wrote:i am making my view clear. i agree with trivians bill but, there cannot be any party based elections for WAD.

Fine I agree with this then.
All WAD elections must not be party based

Hindu mahasabha

Indusse wrote:i am making my view clear. i agree with trivians bill but, there cannot be any party based elections for WAD.

Awell islands wrote:That is what I am saying. I think we are trying to say the same thing except my method of explained just sucks lol.

Basically, the endorsement method is still there as that is th only way WAD elections are done here in India. The party based system is just that there is better connections and ideologies of that's person.

So both if you think Hindu puri is not eligible to stand for next WAD Elections?

Indusse and Whole india

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