Greater jes new islands wrote:

Hunzali is an anarcho-comunist possadist revisonary social democratic marxist monarchist neo-capitalism with chinese characteristics kenyan economics revolutionary alt-centrist

You're such a great contributor to important conversations, you know that? /s

Greater jes new islands and Cauva

Hunzali

3 years 308 days ago

Scalesburg wrote:

You're such a great contributor to important conversations, you know that? /s

I mean, you supporting freedom of speech but seeming not to support the responsibilities that come with it isn't much better.

The Federation of Krimera

3 years 308 days ago

Hunzali wrote:

Why are we trying to focus on Jesia here? I ain't defending anything he did, but this is straying away from the main point: a public condemnation of OOC nazism and a ban on edgyposting is not alot to ask for.

Because its already condemned in the constitution for being racist, homophobic, and anti-Semitic. But banning an ideology in itself is illegal due to the constitution.

Rilandse, Cauva, and Condaian

Ionalands

3 years 308 days ago

Krimera wrote:

Once again, if its harassment then it is against the rules. But if they keep it in the politics chat then it is fine.

Racism, homophobia, anti-semitism is harassment!

I don't think everyone in this region is white, and I know this region is gay AF, plus Varzo is Jewish. We have a diverse region here, and advoaction for nazism means harassing the people here that aren't straight and white.

Like if I say "We should kill gays like Rothaland" what's ultimately the difference from "We should kill gays". Either way you're advocating for my death, the only difference is names aren't mentioned.

New Nationale Einheit and Ebengar

Hunzali

3 years 308 days ago

Krimera wrote:

Because its already condemned in the constitution for being racist, homophobic, and anti-Semitic. But banning an ideology in itself is illegal due to the constitution.

Saying "nazism bad" is not alot to ask for. I get if you have beef with communism, but nazism is literal bigotry mate. What your saying here by not wanting to ban this ideology that it's okay to come here, as a nazi, spread your ideals. And that's..beyond stupid.

Rilandse

3 years 308 days ago

Hunzali wrote:

I mean, you supporting freedom of speech but seeming not to support the responsibilities that come with it isn't much better.

What does that mean? Yes he is supporting free speech. He isn't saying Jesia shouldn't talk, but rather his statement was quite unrelated, which happens to be free speech.

Cauva and Condaian

Rilandse

3 years 308 days ago

When I literally say that Krimera, Cauva and I don't like nazism and they complain we are advocating it...

Cauva and Condaian

Ionalands

3 years 308 days ago

Rilandse wrote:

When I literally say that Krimera, Cauva and I don't like nazism and they complain we are advocating it...

I'm not saying anyone here is nazi. That's not my point.

Hunzali

Cauva

3 years 308 days ago

Ionalands wrote:

I'm not saying anyone here is nazi. That's not my point.

Then what's the issue?

Condaian

The Federation of Krimera

3 years 308 days ago

Ionalands wrote:

Racism, homophobia, anti-semitism is harassment!

Krimera wrote:

Because its already condemned in the constitution for being racist, homophobic, and anti-Semitic. But banning an ideology in itself is illegal due to the constitution.

I AM SAYING ITS HARASSMENT AND YES IT IS AGAINST THE RULES.

But what I am saying is that BELIEVING IN THE IDEOLOGY BUT NOT EXERCISING/PRACTICING IT isn't against the rules. If the person can be civil about their beliefs and not express is onto others, then they aren't breaking rules.

Scalesburg, Rilandse, and Condaian

Hunzali

3 years 308 days ago

Ionalands wrote:

I'm not saying anyone here is nazi. That's not my point.

Were not saying your a nazi, or cauva's a nazi, were just saying this: ban nazism. Ban race supremacy OOC. Is that..so hard? I'm still staying on strike though, and I hope the rest do too.

Apostate and Ionalands

Ionalands

3 years 308 days ago

Cauva wrote:

Then what's the issue?

You're defending one's right to share nazi views on the discord, I don't agree with that.

Hunzali

Cauva

3 years 308 days ago

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Ionalands wrote:

You're defending one's right to share nazi views on the discord, I don't agree with that.

Nobody has been sharing nazi views on the Discord, the closest thing to that is what I'm assuming sparked this "riot" is the damn rock paper scissor image.

Rilandse

3 years 308 days ago

So we do what you ask, then "well we're still on strike.

Condaian

3 years 308 days ago

Hunzali wrote:

Were not saying your a nazi, or cauva's a nazi, were just saying this: ban nazism. Ban race supremacy OOC. Is that..so hard? I'm still staying on strike though, and I hope the rest do too.

So by your logic patriotism shoild be banned as well? And Pride? Anything that advocates for anything that another person doesnt like?

Cauva

The Federation of Krimera

3 years 308 days ago

Hunzali wrote:

Were not saying your a nazi, or cauva's a nazi, were just saying this: ban nazism. Ban race supremacy OOC. Is that..so hard? I'm still staying on strike though, and I hope the rest do too.

Then what's the point of your argument if you plan to still strike?

Cauva and Condaian

Hunzali

3 years 308 days ago

Cauva wrote:

Nobody has been sharing nazi views on the Discord, the closest thing to that is what I'm assuming sparked this "riot" is the damn rock paper scissor image.

I mean. The connotations are prettyyyy bad. If anybody, even maybe a light conservative saw it, they'd probably cringe?

Apostate

Rilandse

3 years 308 days ago

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/666042493300637744/730209853087154216/unknown.png

I don't know how to make this any clearer.

Cauva

3 years 308 days ago

Hunzali wrote:

I mean. The connotations are prettyyyy bad. If anybody, even maybe a light conservative saw it, they'd probably cringe?

I see that as their issue.

Condaian

Hunzali

3 years 308 days ago

Condaian wrote:

So by your logic patriotism shoild be banned as well? And Pride? Anything that advocates for anything that another person doesnt like?

I mean, no? I find pride in my country, as an American overall. There's a difference between finding a love for your country and allowing nazism.

Ionalands

3 years 308 days ago

Krimera wrote:

I AM SAYING ITS HARASSMENT AND YES IT IS AGAINST THE RULES.

But what does that even mean?

Obviously we cannot ever ban people for having thoughts. But if you agree with me that expressing nazi viewpoints, is harassment, then where do we disagree.

As far as I'm concerned, there's no way for one to share their bigoted views and it not be harrassment against this region's minorities.

Ebengar

Hunzali

3 years 308 days ago

Rilandse wrote:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/666042493300637744/730209853087154216/unknown.png

I don't know how to make this any clearer.

Who said you are a nazi? I am saying that we shouldn't allow it, not that "hey Rilandse your a nazi".

Condaian

3 years 308 days ago

Hunzali wrote:

I mean, no? I find pride in my country, as an American overall. There's a difference between finding a love for your country and allowing nazism.

Not according to what you say. Your advocating for the suppression of anyone who believes in any sort of offensive beliefs or some sort of supremacy. So virtually everything has to be suppressed according to you.

Cauva

3 years 308 days ago

Hunzali wrote:

Who said you are a nazi? I am saying that we shouldn't allow it, not that "hey Rilandse your a nazi".

Then what sparked your "protest" against Nazism if there's no Nazis?

Condaian

Ionalands

3 years 308 days ago

Condaian wrote:

Ok, let's not strawman people or try to make wild caricatures of their beliefs.