Nordic LandsBoard

Playing Medieval Kingdoms 1212 AD for Attila Total War, it is the closest thing to a Medieval 3 total war (nearly everyone asks for it but CA never listens), and the mod is now in a rather advanced stage.

I am playing with the Kingdom of Denmark, didn´t know Denmark was so unstable and rebellious, at least in the 13th century, the lords have little regard for the central authority, and want to establish themselves as independent rulers/kings, yes quite indeed, "something is rotten in the State of Denmark" from Hamlet, Shakespeare.

It is great pity that as the map is the more or less the same as in the vanilla Attila, it barely encompasses Scandinavia, Denmark is present yet Norway can only be represented as a migrating faction without settlements, and Sweden has only one province, I hope they will fix that one day. :)

Askerike wrote:

Velkomin! Gaman að kynnast þér.

Takk! Gleden er min.
Jeg er norsk.

New lolland wrote:

This year it will be 15 years since New Lolland was founded. During those 15 years lots of things happened in NationStates but obviously even more in my personal life. Things have evolved in a way, or perhaps it's just me getting old (<- probably this), that I don't really have the time (or the energy) for NationStates anymore.

I suppose this is a goodbye then. Perhaps I'll come and approve last couple of issues later this week just to silently reminisce (by myself) the time I've spent here and give New Lolland a last push towards its autonomy without its leader, Rolf et Hilda (there's btw a (shocking) find in that name if you fiddle around with the letters a bit (just for the giggles, the original name doesn't necessary represent anything in my political views)).

So, goodbye, keep your flags high and I hope you keep on fighting in the name of Nordic Lands! *cheers*

Im sad to see you go, but that is eventualy how it is, everything comes to an end, one day.

Farewell friend, and wishes of a great and happy life!

Many thanks to all who voted in the last poll :)

You guessed it right, new poll, so, vote, vote, vote!

I assume "The Kingdom" refers to the mini-series 'Riget' by Lars von Trier, right?

Thanks for all votes in the last poll, well, here is another one. :)

Cop Met wrote:

Regarding the poll description: I know you're just quoting whatever feminists claim the MeToo movement is, but that's exactly what makes it so misleading. I'd personally just have left it blank and let people decide for themselves what the MeToo movement is or isn't - but it's your poll, so you do you!

Actually, this description is from wikipedia, Im not as well informed as you, about these feminist matters, so I placed this wikipedia article in the description as to give some guidance (or not) to the people voting in the poll,if the information is correct/partially correct/incorrect, is another matter I think subject to personal sensibility/interpretation, and given that Im more or less Ignorant about these matters, Im no one to judge this. :)

Cop Met wrote:

Yeah, that was my guess. Unfortunately, Wikipedia has a very strong bias and is not particularly trustworthy, especially when it comes to anything political.

It is a pity, that I can´t alter the poll description,only delete the whole poll.
Well,so be it,in 11 days it will be over anyway.
BTW, thanks for voting COP MET :)

Cop Met wrote:

Well, it isn't. It's just quoting feminists verbatim. It's obviously extremely biased, full of propagandist rhetoric, and just plain false. The fact that some of it is clarified as being based on the claims of the movement's delusional political activists doesn't negate that. At best, I guess you could change the sentencing from 'wrong' to 'misleading'. As in: it's not wrong that this is what its supporters claim, but it is misleading to base the description on that, as what its supporters claim is complete bullsh!t.

I mean, as I said, whether or not you agree with what the movement's activists say is a different thing. Maybe you could say it's misleading if the rest of the article doesn't give examples of controversy surrounding the movement, but if I'm telling someone what a movement or a political stance is about I'd be quoting their founders first. If I had to explain what communism was, I'd first quote Marx and maybe later give a counterpoint on how it really goes in practice. Same with this: basically, MeToo movement is [as stated by their founders]. If in practice it's different it's convenient to clarify.

In any case, the only objective truth is that whatever the founders of a movement say is what it's in theory supposed to be. Saying that whatever their supporters claim is buIIshit is subjective and biased against the movement, if anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk--4hAtrOY

A awesome mod, that combines CK3 strategic map and intricate dynastic politics, schemes and intrigues, with Bannerlord battles, practically merging these 2 games into 1.
Never saw anything of the sort, looks very promising.
Hope they can do it :)

Aboveland wrote:

That's not an objective description.

No, and neither is the description of the MeToo movement. The founders'/supporters' description of a movement isn't objective. That's the point.
That's why adding it is, at best, misleading, and why "but that's what the founder says" is a lousy defense.

Aboveland wrote:

As per Wikipedia: "..." These are all things upheld by Nazis and characteristics of the movement

Not according to its founders/supporters.

Aboveland wrote:

Wikipedia

... is run by leftist activists who treat it like their own personal blog. But we're not grading the Wikipedia page here - only the short description in the poll. So your entire argument is unfortunately not only severely flawed, but also irrelevant.

Aboveland wrote:

if the movement's creator had said "the MeToo movement empowers women and leads them to live happier, safer lives", then your analogy would have been more accurate.

I said the supporters of Nazism claimed it was 'designed to better the nation' - not that it's actually 'bettering the nation'. So the analogy is completely sound. Even if I indulged by calling it 'wonderful'. But you keep missing the point - either deliberately or by accident. Forget MeToo. Forget Nazism. Forget whether or not the movement is actually what the supporters claim it is. The point is that the two can be different and, given the obvious bias, probably are.

So if you're going to add a description based on what the founders/supporters claim it is, it should probably be in quotes. And if you're trying to be fair, you should probably add a counter to that. The most fair, however, would be to leave out the description entirely.

But I really don't want to go too deep into this; I truly appreciate Whallhall's polls and general engagement here in the region, and I don't want this to be taken the wrong way or be in any way discouraging. Keep doing your polls just the way you want, mate. It was just a side note, it wasn't meant to evolve into anything more than that.