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Hindu mahasabha wrote:

Where is it written Muslims can't get Citizenship?

Have you read the bill? When citizenship is restricted to everybody except Muslims, it's simple arithmetic to understand that they are excluded.

Hindu mahasabha wrote:

If you feel it is wrong challenge it in the Supreme Court.

Sure. Yet I don't see you defending secularism. Your nation name checks out.

First I wish to put forward a few points, why some people are against CAA;

Why aren't Muslims included in the bill?

There is no sense of the thing how Muslims are discriminated in Islamic Countries.
“People discriminate with me, in West Bengal, because I'm a Bengali.” Does this statement makes any sense? No.

Those who say Ahmediyas and other minorities are discriminated in Pakistan. Please understand there is a difference between religious discrimination and social discrimination. Those who are socially discriminated, are still welcomed in India.

CAA violates Article 14 of our Constitution?

There can be no law on the basis of religion.
Please tell me how was ‘All India Muslim Personal Law Board’ (AIMPLB) formed ‘on the basis of religion'?
If no law can be formed on the basis of religion, how can reservation be given on the basis of religion?

India shouldn't give citizenship and shelter on the basis of religion?

I agree, but let's be honest and a bit harsh here. There are 56 countries who openly welcome Muslim refugees and give them citizenship to live respected life. Show me any two (2) countries which openly provided citizenship to Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and Jains to help them live a respected life.
Leave any other country, even in our own nation, Kashmiri Pundits are still living as Migrants, after being relocating from Kashmir due to terrorism and genocide.

Muslims from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh won't get citizenship in India?

Please read the Act again, it nowhere tells that Muslims from these nations won't get Citizenship. They can still apply for Citizenship to India, but for them the process is different, and the naturalization time period is 11 years.

India is becoming a Hindu Rashtra?

The world ‘secularism’ was added to our Constitution during the emergency (1975). So before that was India a Hindu Rashtra?
Which India gave shelter to Persians (Parsis), Jews and Tibetians? Secular India or Hindu India?

Based on the above facts, I support Citizenship Ammendment Act (CAA).

Tag: Ophweria Indian soviet

Ophweria wrote:

We can agree that Indian secularism is different from the rest. We have freedom of religion here. Owaisi can wear his kufi cap and Manmohan can wear his turban. It's called diversity.

The Ram mandir - Babri masjid is a controversial incident that resulted in communal tensions and death of many. As Prime Minister of a secular nation, he should have stayed away from the pooja. When he attended, it showed that he didn't care about the bloody history of the place. That's a lack of responsibility.

And at last Justice was delivered. So by attending Bhoomi Poojan Prime Minsiter Narendra Modi sided with justice.

South konkan wrote:

Does a citizen lose his freedom of religion, when he becomes head of state?

Secularism is only applicable for Hindus.
Liberals were all okay, when PM Modi attended Mosque and Church. Then they didn't thought that Secularism is in danger.

South konkan wrote:

Does a citizen lose his freedom of religion, when he becomes head of state?

Article 25 and Article 28 states that anyone irrespective of Caste,religion,gender,race,Place he live,post;all the people even PM has a right to follow any religion he wants.

Indian soviet wrote:

Iam not trying to discriminate or hesitate Indian Muslim .Indian Muslim's are Indians and I respect them .Iam only saying about Muslim's of other countries .
Think:-
If we allow Pakistan people to come India then don't the terrorist enter India easily??? There many terrorist in POK

Firstly, think about what you said. I understand that India and Pakistan are enemies, but the people there same the culture. Pakistani people are not all terrorists. And although there are terrorists in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir, rehabilitation can help bring peace to the whole Kashmir region

Nordviska wrote:

Firstly, think about what you said. I understand that India and Pakistan are enemies, but the people there same the culture. Pakistani people are not all terrorists. And although there are terrorists in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir, rehabilitation can help bring peace to the whole Kashmir region

First I am not blaming Pakistan people.
We can't give citizenship EASILY to Pakistanis because some Terrorist can come unknowingly.

Nordviska wrote:

Furthermore, Muslims and other minorities are being sidelined in other ways too. Examples: Revocation of J&K's statehood, people beating Muslims up for eating beef, police bias against muslims in the 2020 protests

Indian soviet wrote:

First I am not blaming Pakistan people.
We can't give citizenship EASILY to Pakistanis because some Terrorist can come unknowingly.

Okay let's halt this discussion here, as it is getting heated.

This topic seems to be a never ending discussion. Let's focus our energy on NationStates.

Hi

Let us not discuss politics. It's enthused with biases and prejudices on both Muslims and Hindus. Let's not make this an arena to vent our prejudices.

The problem is, Indian secularism is so laughable and selective that agnostics like me are forced to become religious.
And honestly. Honestly, nobody is bathed in milk.

And Mahasabha ji, don't bother yourself. Ye log waise bhi nahi manenge, aur aise bhi nahi. Janta sab jaanati hai XD