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Youssath wrote:Whether you have more NS experience than me or not is irrelevant at point here. It does seem that you are insecure of revealing your true identity of who you are, instead merely speaking to me in a puppet nation just to save your "face". If you want to back your own points, jolly well come out and stand by your words.

Beat it, if you don't like hearing what I have to say you can just ignore it. But I will still be here to advocate what I stand for. Just because I am not in agreement with these invasions doesn't mean that I am mixing real-life scenarios and RP altogether.

Excuse me? Please check your facts before making accusations. This is not some puppet. I'm a citizen of The North Pacific, and this is one of my main nations. I'm not on the RMB very often because the North Pacific community is mostly based on the forums and Discord. My WA nation, if you're questioning, is in said region backing Antifa forces.

Now, please tell me, are these not real-life/RP references:

"Does that seem familiar to you? Are you even aware of the repercussions as to what may happen if we continue being so interventionist on other people's backyards?"
(And to answer your question: the repercussion is nothing. People raid, whether you like it or not)
"Youssath was founded upon nationalistic sentiments and groups who all believed in a greater cause than themselves against those who threaten to sell away our independence towards imperialist powers of the world. When we took up arms and defeated the democratic forces in Youssath, we did not purge or execute their members just for being the "enemy" here. They are still Youssathians after all, and we cannot harm those who fought and bled for a greater cause than themselves. Instead, we re-educated them, provided housing and basic commodities and reintegrated them back into our society. Some of them chose to flee the country at the end, but what we have only done is to provide opportunities for them to restart their life and continue as normal. Violence only begets more violence if we are left to our own primitive senses."

And lastly, perhaps if you're so opposed to raiding, you should join a defender army.

Youssath

Gorundu wrote:Excuse me? Please check your facts before making accusations. This is not some puppet. I'm a citizen of The North Pacific, and this is one of my main nations. I'm not on the RMB very often because the North Pacific community is mostly based on the forums and Discord. My WA nation, if you're questioning, is in said region backing Antifa forces.

Now, please tell me, are these not real-life/RP references:

"Does that seem familiar to you? Are you even aware of the repercussions as to what may happen if we continue being so interventionist on other people's backyards?"
"Youssath was founded upon nationalistic sentiments and groups who all believed in a greater cause than themselves against those who threaten to sell away our independence towards imperialist powers of the world. When we took up arms and defeated the democratic forces in Youssath, we did not purge or execute their members just for being the "enemy" here. They are still Youssathians after all, and we cannot harm those who fought and bled for a greater cause than themselves. Instead, we re-educated them, provided housing and basic commodities and reintegrated them back into our society. Some of them chose to flee the country at the end, but what we have only done is to provide opportunities for them to restart their life and continue as normal. Violence only begets more violence if we are left to our own primitive senses."

We can continue this in a private telegram conversation if you wish. I see no reason as to why I should continue to degrade this message board with your continuous bickering over personal opinions and statements.

No one is driving any real-life references or anything. Just because I have stated that there may be "some familiarity" to the issue at hand here doesn't imply that I am deriving this situation from any real-life scenarios. If anything, you are just being upset over my choice of wording to get my points across this very audience. If you want to throw "accusations" at me, feel free to name some RL references that I am "even trying" to imply to.

Also, just as a heads up or anything. I am not against the North Pacific Army or anything here. In fact, I am fully supportive of it and its members to help deter any potential enemies within the world. However, I do believe that I can express what I think about this entire fiasco.

(Edit: Also, no one is saying that I should join a defender army or anything. Stop getting so twisted over my own personal views.)
I will still stand by what I have just said in my previous entry. Cheers.


Youssath Ministerial Statement

Independence. Peace. Progress.

Following the successful raids on The Iron Confederacy by Antifa along with widespread international support across various regions, Prime Minister Alfonzo Finley has made an official statement towards the recent attacks on these regions.

The Prime Minister of Youssath issues a ministerial speech at 5:00PM on Aug 20 2019 in the National Front Council,


With the authority from the War Cabinet of The Republic of Youssath and the joint authority of The Foreign Ministry and The Internal Ministry:

Members of the National Front Council, revolutionaries of The Azure Revolution,
Friends and fellow Youssathians at home and abroad,

Good evening. It is of a serious matter that we have gathered here today in the recent wake of attacks and development against the region of The Iron Confederacy.

Yesterday, August 19, 2019, The Iron Confederacy was attacked by the raiding forces from the region of Antifa. The attacks on The Iron Confederacy were instigated under the pretence of removing "anti-fascist"
movements, although it must be noted that at this point of time, that The Iron Confederacy has continuously maintained a raiding force of their own to export their hateful ideology abroad to unite the world under
fascism and that its founder, Hispanyo, is in blantant violation of several international rules and treaties imposed by the very international community.

While we do condemn The Iron Confederacy for exporting their hateful ideology abroad along with the ideology of Borenzoism, this government calls upon the international community to settle their differences
through arbitation and diplomacy, and that while ideologies and borders do separate us and our people, we must embrace diversity of our beliefs in a world which we all share. We must condemn those who take
up arms against peaceful regions, for it only sows discord and war in years to come. The justifications made by Antifa that warrants an invasion of The Iron Confederacy are just as equally damaging as what
The Iron Confederacy has did before, as ideas and beliefs do not die as easily as nations, and may give birth to a greater insurgency threat for generations to come.

While Youssath does not condone Borenzoism or any of its kind to be the modern ideology of our times, we interpret the messages of The Iron Confederacy as nothing more than simply "ultranationalistic
sentiments" resonated by its members. These nations are free to exercise whatever ideology their populace wish to do, and we must not disturb this delicate balance for as it creates radical refugees fleeing
towards our borders, undermining our very own national security and warranting a more dangerous world to live in. It is therefore of utmost importance to leave these nations at peace, for invading them gives them
a moral justification to resist against those trying to help them.

Youssath was founded upon nationalistic sentiments and groups who all believed in a greater cause than themselves against those who threaten to sell away our independence towards imperialist powers of the
world. When we took up arms and defeated the democratic forces in Youssath, we did not purge or execute their members just for being the "enemy" here. They are still Youssathians after all, and we cannot harm
those who fought and bled for a greater cause than themselves. Instead, we re-educated them, provided housing and basic commodities and reintegrated them back into our society. Some of them chose to flee
the country at the end, but what we have only done is to provide opportunities for them to restart their life and continue as normal. Violence only begets more violence if we are left to our own primitive senses.

The invasion of The Iron Confederacy by Antifa is widely condemned upon by this very government, for the repercussions set upon by this invasion will haunt future generations in NationStates. The creation of
Nuevo Amanecer is proof that ideologies do not die so easily, and the actions by Antifa will inspire more radical fascist attacks against neutral regions in the world, undermining international stability. Antifa
therefore does not have to right to justify wars as so they please, and that this government is greatly disturbed that Antifa have resorted to the path of violence and provocation - which will reciprocate in years
to come. Youssath encourages all members to set up meaningful diplomatic channels to settle their differences, and if that fails, to call upon the Security Council to officially condemn the region.

Youssath also expresses concern over The North Pacific Army's involvement in the The Iron Confederacy raids. As one of the largest and respected regions in NationStates, we feel that The North Pacific should
not meddle in the affairs of other regions, since it only serves to inspire our enemies against us to plot for a coup d'état just like what the Crimson Order has done years ago. While Youssath hopes to
contribute significantly in The North Pacific through the World Assembly and potential participation into the NPA, we cannot help but feel disturbed over the blantant lack of respect towards the region's foreign
policy in the international stage. Therefore, we will take more time to consider participating fully into The North Pacific's operations, which will be known at a later date.

We hope that through this conflict, there will be no need for further bloodshed and conflict between opposing ideological regions in NationStates. This war has gone far enough for many of us, and if we continue to
resort to invasion and raiding to resolve our differences, we will only leave behind a world full of destruction and hate. In this year, take a pause and reflect what this means for the rest of the world.

We call for all parties to set aside their differences and to strive for the peaceful resolution of this conflict. Hopefully, there is no need for another war.

I wish everyone a pleasant and enjoyable evening. Thank you.

Hereby concludes the official statement from The Prime Minister, and is final of Youssath.

The Prime Minister's Office
Republic of Youssath
Read dispatch

Aleria and tiristan, Deerfenland, and Krropezka

Tsardom of leonlandia

Territorio di Nessuno wrote:I'm not a vegan.

Eat some mosquitos and flies, no one likes them

Volstokn wrote:Yikes
>eating seaweed

^^Im actually curious to eat seaweed chips xD

Youssath wrote:We can continue this in a private telegram conversation if you wish. I see no reason as to why I should continue to degrade this message board with your continuous bickering over personal opinions and statements.

No one is driving any real-life references or anything. Just because I have stated that there may be "some familiarity" to the issue at hand here doesn't imply that I am deriving this situation from any real-life scenarios. If anything, you are just being upset over my choice of wording to get my points across this very audience. If you want to throw "accusations" at me, feel free to name some RL references that I am "even trying" to imply to.

Also, just as a heads up or anything. I am not against the North Pacific Army or anything here. In fact, I am fully supportive of it and its members to help deter any potential enemies within the world. However, I do believe that I can express what I think about this entire fiasco.

Then please tell me, what do you believe said "interventionism" would lead to? Your national RP, which you dedicated an entire paragraph to in your statement, also has no relevance towards NS Gameplay (note the capitalisation: Gameplay, also known as GP, is a very specific community and a large part of it is R/D).

I'm glad you don't oppose the NPA, but I am rather confused: if you don't believe the NPA should do things like this, then what do you think the NPA is meant to do?

Last, keep in mind all my suggestions are only suggestions. Ignore them if you wish, but they're only what I think will let you have a better time on NS.

Utopia nirvana

Hey, please don't mind me asking but can a nation start a poll?

Utopia nirvana wrote:Hey, please don't mind me asking but can a nation start a poll?

If you create a region, otherwise you can suggest one.

Tsardom of leonlandia wrote:Eat some mosquitos and flies, no one likes them ^^

Eewww

Aerilia, Utopia nirvana, and Tsardom of leonlandia

Good morning everyone!

Utopia nirvana wrote:Hey, please don't mind me asking but can a nation start a poll?

Only a regional officer with polling authority can start a regional poll. You can do a poll somewhere else though, or you can suggest ideas to Territorio di Nessuno

Edit: Ninja'd by the man himself

Territorio di Nessuno, Aerilia, and Utopia nirvana

The Black Cathedral wrote:Good morning everyone!

Hello!

Utopia nirvana

Territorio di Nessuno wrote:If you create a region, otherwise you can suggest one.
Eewww

Oh. Can one make/suggest an interregional poll? Long story short, a friend in another region and I are are disputing over territory and instead if declaring war on each other like almost everytime, I suggested having a voting to see who gets what peacefully and he reluctantly agreed.

So Territorio di Nessuno..
page=poll/p=145727

In An Amazing Twist, In The Last Couple Of Hours, The Favour Switches To Banjection, With 2 Points More Than Delegate!

Aerilia and Fizban

Utopia nirvana wrote:Oh. Can one make/suggest an interregional poll? Long story short, a friend in another region and I are are disputing over territory and instead if declaring war on each other like almost everytime, I suggested having a voting to see who gets what peacefully and he reluctantly agreed.

I see, then i suggest you to create a region for that specific poll and mention people interested in to come vote, be sure to use a puppet to keep the region alive otherwise It will CTE.

Aerilia and Fizban

The anarchist far east wrote:

A plane flew into a Fizbanian airport, it’s “crew” adjusting their masks.
Everything is proceeding as planned
As the plane docked at Terminal 1B, the member at the back unscrewed the lid on his bag.
Sow the seeds of chaos.
As the terminal doors leading to the airport opened, canisters were thrown into the lobby.
It’s a sound plan.
People screamed and ran as the gas began escaping the canisters. The terrorists rushed out of the terminal, gas masks on and weapons hot.

Yeet

Declan stared in shock as he watched the news on his television in the Octagonal Office. The gas attack was happening right now, on live television. The first event like this to happen in Fizbanian history. Declan called the Fizbanian Quick Response team, the military, and ambulances and ordered all nearby personnel to evacuate the airport at once.

Declan shook his head, “I hope this doesn’t cause too much chaos.”

Grossvietnam wrote:Oh, about your loss to Grossvietnamese Army Club???

Yeah.

Grossvietnam and The anarchist far east

Gorundu wrote:Then please tell me, what do you believe said "interventionism" would lead to? Your national RP, which you dedicated an entire paragraph to in your statement, also has no relevance towards NS Gameplay (note the capitalisation: Gameplay, also known as GP, is a very specific community and a large part of it is R/D).

I'm glad you don't oppose the NPA, but I am rather confused: if you don't believe the NPA should do things like this, then what do you think the NPA is meant to do?

Here's the thing about intervening in other people's affairs: sometimes you have destroyed a region, but you have not destroyed the ideals and thinking of Fascism. These nations are already indoctrinated with their own darn ideological fantasies. If you come in and break their stuff up, do you think they are going to like it? How about those who are living peacefully here? What if these said "fantatics" stage a small sabotage or espionage attempt on us?

The point I'm driving here is that we don't need to make enemies here. Sure, denounce them all you want to. Hell, even throw an official Security Council condemnation in it if you want! But you can never fully eradicate what these people are thinking in the first place - that, you are up against their history and community as a whole, and boy will I tell you that it is a losing battle to fight with people who are already so indoctrinated themselves.

The NPA should instead be focusing on protecting democratic institutions and regions around NationStates and helping out with internal matters within our own region. We don't need to fight wars far away from home, but we certainly can protect our allies and those we are interested in to protect their way of life and culture.

As to my national RP, I think you are taking it way too seriously in the context of NS Gameplay. I have simply voiced my nation's views on this recent development in international affairs and there you are, eyes bewildered thinking that I am trying to instigate an uprising here. :P

Necerierra and Aleria and tiristan

Utopia nirvana

Territorio di Nessuno wrote:I see, then i suggest you to create a region for that specific poll and mention people interested in to come vote, be sure to use a puppet to keep the region alive otherwise It will CTE.

Thanks for the advise! But how does one create a region?

Post self-deleted by Gorundu.

Gorundu wrote:Most people won't know what's going on in your RP, and many probably wouldn't be bothered to find out. I doubt it'll get made here, so you have to create your own region and post it there - you can set it so anyone can vote. However, if you want to get enough voters, you need to advertise your poll (I think you can do it here, but I'm not entirely familiar with the rules)

You Can.

Aleria and tiristan and Youssath

Utopia nirvana

Krropezka wrote:-Deleted Quote By Gorundu-
Most people won't know what's going on in your RP, and many probably wouldn't be bothered to find out. I doubt it'll get made here, so you have to create your own region and post it there - you can set it so anyone can vote. However, if you want to get enough voters, you need to advertise your poll (I think you can do it here, but I'm not entirely familiar with the rules)
-End Quote-

You Can.

Thanks!

Utopia nirvana

Territorio di Nessuno and Gorundu sorry if I was a little annoying with my questions.

Youssath

Gorundu wrote:Most people won't know what's going on in your RP, and many probably wouldn't be bothered to find out. I doubt it'll get made here, so you have to create your own region and post it there - you can set it so anyone can vote. However, if you want to get enough voters, you need to advertise your poll (I think you can do it here, but I'm not entirely familiar with the rules)

Big thanks to Krropezka for restoring that deleted quote by Gorundu.

For someone who advocates for freedom and fights for the NPA, you sure as hell are bad at trying to keep members within The North Pacific. These types of suggestions are exactly not really helpful for the region for sure.

Also, you are entitled to your suggestions, just as I am entitled to my own personal informed opinion. We both don't necessarily have to agree or listen to each other. I wish you a good day ahead.

Aleria and tiristan

:thonk: All RPers that aren’t breaking the rules are welcome in TNP

Deerfenland, The anarchist far east, Fizban, and Youssath

Volstokn wrote::thonk: All RPers that aren’t breaking the rules are welcome in TNP

Oh, Probably Should Leave Then.

Youssath wrote:Big thanks to Krropezka for restoring that deleted quote by Gorundu.

Your Welcome.

Youssath

Utopia nirvana wrote:Thanks for the advise! But how does one create a region?

Make another nation, then go here: page=create_region

Make sure you keep executive authority as founder and disable executive authority for WA Delegate

Utopia nirvana

Gorundu wrote:Make another nation, then go here: page=create_region

Make sure you keep executive authority as founder and disable executive authority for WA Delegate

Thank you again!

Utopia nirvana

And with this I bid adieu. I might come back. Thanks for welcoming me in here.

Territorio di Nessuno, Aleria and tiristan, and Youssath

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