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New french etat wrote:They may be non-globalist, but to be anti-globalist, one has to be actively opposed to globalism from our actions and words, I didn't see that in the Yellow Vests, just a massive social unrest that threatened the wicked State of France with collapse.

I thought it had to do with the carbon emissions tax.

Atsuria wrote:I'm sorry what?

My maudlin residual attachment to The Iron Confederacy and regret that my disappearances leave me frequently in the dark when I return

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J o Jian Ambassador Alpha wrote:This is something I always bring up in discussions/arguments with degenerates and/or leftists. The communists killed several dozens of millions more than the Nazis, so upon bringing this up they often fall apart and start spouting excuses and other nonsense about how the racism and genocide against 6 million Jews is somehow worse than starving out 20 million Ukrainians on purpose.

Whether the lefties use the 6, 8, 10, or 12 million figure on the holocaust, they just keep shooting themselves in the foot because the communists killed nearly 100 million in a variety of ways, and almost all of the holocaust deaths were caused by Nazi Germany; all the other fascists of the 20th century didn’t follow Hitler’s national socialism.

Well, the Holocaust is still being researched and debated. People still aren't sure if it really happened as they say it did. But, you do have a point about communists killing way more people in a variety of ways systematically. That's the key word in all of this.

Krich aerd

Umakia wrote:The very attempt to quantify morality through a number of deaths is fairly pointless at any rate and reflects the positivistic humanism that any fascist should despise. The state is a nationally exclusive ethical reality at any rate, and as long as a plurality of nation-states may continue to exist in this world, the ultimate test of morality in government policy or military action shall be if the nation's people are left better or worse off.

Comrade, we understand this. We are just using the positivistic logic of the Enlightenment against those who propound its tenets. It's not that we are justifying this particular philosophy.

However, I should let you know that ethical dilemmas stem from ethnic conflict. The only way for nation-states to be morally right is if they follow through on the understanding that ethnic groups require a level of autonomy and self-sufficiency. Race has a major psychosocial effect of humanity that cannot be ignored.

Umakia

Zordennox wrote:Comrade, we understand this. We are just using the positivistic logic of the Enlightenment against those who propound its tenets. It's not that we are justifying this particular philosophy.

However, I should let you know that ethical dilemmas stem from ethnic conflict. The only way for nation-states to be morally right is if they follow through on the understanding that ethnic groups require a level of autonomy and self-sufficiency.

The fault in the ethnopluralist doctrine you espouse is that is presupposes some sort of "equality among the peoples" whereby each national and ethnic grouping has some eternal right to its autonomy. However, as history shows, it is inevitable that the higher orders of civilization, to maintain and expand the technical standards of that civilization and to satisfy the martial impulse so inextricable from basic human nature, will conquer and subjugate the lower orders. In this event, the best that the conquered can hope for from the conqueror is that their new overlords are relatively merciful and beneficent. This is why fascism is sooner or later a necessity for all nations that seek to preserve their sovereignty against both foreign peoples and internationalist political influences: In enforcing a uniform discipline and consolidating a nation as an indivisible collective body through the reification of its unique cultural standards, a nation-state maximizes its likelihood of being on the winning end of that inevitable conflict which forms the natural hierarchies among the peoples. The idea that all ethnic groups must, or ever can, be granted their own autonomy and self-sufficiency is a pipe dream. If you want evidence, you can look at the squalid mess caused by the decolonization of Africa and realize that if it weren't for international bureaucracy like the UN getting in the way that all of Africa would have already been retaken by the major Western powers. Furthermore, to think of ethical reality as possibly being separate from the state is another liberal humanist idea, as the state is the only thing which can consolidate nations and codify the national way of life through means both formal and informal. Moral law is a concept inseparable from the people's way of life, and the attempt to assign positive or negative moral value on anything other than the question of whether the nation, both as a people and as the way of life affirming that people's identity, is preserved and advanced is fallacious.

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Nouveau-montreal

News from the North; a revival in Western-Conservative separatism following the Trudeau's minority government. "WEXIT" is making it's gains. It's progress, I suppose.

Krich aerd and Zordennox

Apologies for the slight delay in the HOT-TOPIC-program cycle. I did not have time to spend on NS yesterday, but it is updated now.

Seeing as how the previous three topics circled around on recent world events I decided to take a detour here. We all live in the age of the city, a relatively fresh era compared to the hundreds of thousands of centuries man lived off of an agrarian lifestyle, with the majority of people living in smaller rural communities and villages (percentage-amount of city dwellers vs countryside-dwellers of course varied by locale). This has certainly impacted us in various ways, and the rate of urbanization is predicted to grow. How do you feel about this? What do you think of it? Is this a sign of better things to come, or but a first-taste of gloomier horizons?

Krich aerd and New french etat

Umakia wrote:My maudlin residual attachment to The Iron Confederacy and regret that my disappearances leave me frequently in the dark when I return

No, not that. You said everything had gone to the birds upon arriving here.

I digress.

Krich aerd and New french etat

Fascist north wrote:No, not that. You said everything had gone to the birds upon arriving here.

I digress.

That's what I meant. The Iron Confederacy went to the birds. Everything was destroyed.

Krich aerd and New french etat

Umakia wrote:That's what I meant. The Iron Confederacy went to the birds. Everything was destroyed.

Then I must've misunderstood you. I read it that you were referring to this region.

Krich aerd and New french etat

New french etat

Fascist north wrote:Apologies for the slight delay in the HOT-TOPIC-program cycle. I did not have time to spend on NS yesterday, but it is updated now.

Seeing as how the previous three topics circled around on recent world events I decided to take a detour here. We all live in the age of the city, a relatively fresh era compared to the hundreds of thousands of centuries man lived off of an agrarian lifestyle, with the majority of people living in smaller rural communities and villages (percentage-amount of city dwellers vs countryside-dwellers of course varied by locale). This has certainly impacted us in various ways, and the rate of urbanization is predicted to grow. How do you feel about this? What do you think of it? Is this a sign of better things to come, or but a first-taste of gloomier horizons?

I think that the response this question must be grounded on each member national and sociological background, urbanization it's never a black and white issue, it strongly depends on the context. For example, in a country that presents the territorial capacities to be mostly agrarian, urbanization must come in a regulated and planned way, giving priorization to the rural areas and their development first.

Umakia wrote:The fault in the ethnopluralist doctrine you espouse is that is presupposes some sort of "equality among the peoples" whereby each national and ethnic grouping has some eternal right to its autonomy.

Ethnopluralism does not posit that there is equality among people. It says that differences, whatever those may be, in people groups must be preserved in their traditional state. You can see ethnopluralism as a sort of traditionalist doctrine, with which fascism has amicable relations.

Umakia wrote:However, as history shows, it is inevitable that the higher orders of civilization, to maintain and expand the technical standards of that civilization and to satisfy the martial impulse so inextricable from basic human nature, will conquer and subjugate the lower orders.

Conquering other ethnicities is not a requirement for maintaining a civilization. The success or failure of civilizations has to do with the spiritual and social conditions in that civilization, not what others have to win or lose.

Umakia wrote:In this event, the best that the conquered can hope for from the conqueror is that their new overlords are relatively merciful and beneficent. This is why fascism is sooner or later a necessity for all nations that seek to preserve their sovereignty against both foreign peoples and internationalist political influences...

Again, conquering other ethnicities does not create a sphere of sovereignty or national consciousness for any civilization. I would argue, that would divide a civilization: with lethal consequences. When you conquer a foreign people, they become your problem. The British Empire conquered many ethnicities throughout the world, and now they are having a reverse affect backfire.

Umakia wrote:...In enforcing a uniform discipline and consolidating a nation as an indivisible collective body through the reification of its unique cultural standards, a nation-state maximizes its likelihood of being on the winning end of that inevitable conflict which forms the natural hierarchies among the peoples.

For racial hierarchies to form naturally, by that I mean collective spiritual souls, ethnicities must be separate. Ethics and ethnicity have the same Greek root word. They are interconnected.

Umakia wrote:Furthermore, to think of ethical reality as possibly being separate from the state is another liberal humanist idea, as the state is the only thing which can consolidate nations and codify the national way of life through means both formal and informal.

Ethics and ethnicity have the same Greek root word. That means the state is ethically wrong if it is not founded on the ethnos. This is a fact that liberal humanists reject when they advocate internationalism.

Umakia wrote:Moral law is a concept inseparable from the people's way of life, and the attempt to assign positive or negative moral value on anything other than the question of whether the nation, both as a people and as the way of life affirming that people's identity, is preserved and advanced is fallacious.

"Moral law is a concept inseparable from the people's way of life"

"...the attempt to assign positive or negative moral value on anything other than the question of whether the nation, both as a people and as the way of life affirming that people's identity, is preserved and advanced is fallacious."

These two statements are contradictory. The first statement is the argument that I am making.

Zordennox wrote:Ethnopluralism does not posit that there is equality among people. It says that differences, whatever those may be, in people groups must be preserved in their traditional state. You can see ethnopluralism as a sort of traditionalist doctrine, with which fascism has amicable relations.

Conquering other ethnicities is not a requirement for maintaining a civilization. The success or failure of civilizations has to do with the spiritual and social conditions in that civilization, not what others have to win or lose.

Again, conquering other ethnicities does not create a sphere of sovereignty or national consciousness for any civilization. I would argue, that would divide a civilization: with lethal consequences. When you conquer a foreign people, they become your problem. The British Empire conquered many ethnicities throughout the world, and now they are having a reverse affect backfire.

For racial hierarchies to form naturally, by that I mean collective spiritual souls, ethnicities must be separate. Ethics and ethnicity have the same Greek root word. They are interconnected.

Ethics and ethnicity have the same Greek root word. That means the state is ethically wrong if it is not founded on the ethnos. This is a fact that liberal humanists reject when they advocate internationalism.

"Moral law is a concept inseparable from the people's way of life"

"...the attempt to assign positive or negative moral value on anything other than the question of whether the nation, both as a people and as the way of life affirming that people's identity, is preserved and advanced is fallacious."

These two statements are contradictory. The first statement is the argument that I am making.

I suppose we can agree to disagree, but my two statements are not in contradiction. You likely misread it because I worded it strangely.

In any event, I was endeavoring to get the newspaper started back up, and since you hold a position of prominence in Farkasfalka, I was wondering if you had any interest in writing a column on recent developments in that corner.

Zordennox and New french etat

Fascist north wrote:Apologies for the slight delay in the HOT-TOPIC-program cycle. I did not have time to spend on NS yesterday, but it is updated now.

Seeing as how the previous three topics circled around on recent world events I decided to take a detour here. We all live in the age of the city, a relatively fresh era compared to the hundreds of thousands of centuries man lived off of an agrarian lifestyle, with the majority of people living in smaller rural communities and villages (percentage-amount of city dwellers vs countryside-dwellers of course varied by locale). This has certainly impacted us in various ways, and the rate of urbanization is predicted to grow. How do you feel about this? What do you think of it? Is this a sign of better things to come, or but a first-taste of gloomier horizons?

Both urban and rural life in my view are equally important to preserving the true essence of a nation while accommodating the need for a materially modernized society. It is neither feasible nor particularly desirable that society should become largely agrarian, whereas the way forward seems plainly to be in the form of technical and industrial advances. However, urban life has an unsettling tendency to foster rootless cosmopolitanism and attitudes of apathetic complacency. Nevertheless, should we take the dichotomy of urban life vs rural life as fundamentally one between agrarianism and industrialism, I see no reason why one approach should be predominant over the other.

Zordennox and New french etat

Umakia wrote:I suppose we can agree to disagree, but my two statements are not in contradiction. You likely misread it because I worded it strangely.

In any event, I was endeavoring to get the newspaper started back up, and since you hold a position of prominence in Farkasfalka, I was wondering if you had any interest in writing a column on recent developments in that corner.

Sure, give me a topic and I will gladly write a column.

Krich aerd and Umakia

Important Message from the J o Jian Defense Minister:

Z-Day8 will commence in 2 days, and at exactly 4:00 PM when the apocalypse begins, J o J will enact total quarantine, and borders will be sealed. All ambassador states, including this one, will adhere to section 1 of the Z-Day response protocol in the Viral Response Protocol Factbook. If this region, within 2 hours, has not begun zombie extermination or is embracing the infected, then the ambassador will be withdrawn to J o J for the duration of the event, and will return upon its conclusion. This is because no entity of J o J shall be left unprotected, and allowing a J o Jian entity to be susceptible to harm is unacceptable.

Furthermore, if this region desires military support in eradicating the infected, then the founder, or any other nation with border control or military permissions may send a telegram to J o J and the region will be added to the list of regions to be protected by J o Jian forces during N-Day8. If this region requests military assistance, the necessary number of puppets will be dispatched to destroy any and all infected in the region, and they will be withdrawn when it is decided the region is no longer under threat. This is purely optional, and J o J places no pressure on this region to accept it; declinations on any grounds will be understood.

New french etat

New french etat

Zordennox wrote:Ethnopluralism does not posit that there is equality among people. It says that differences, whatever those may be, in people groups must be preserved in their traditional state. You can see ethnopluralism as a sort of traditionalist doctrine, with which fascism has amicable relations.

And those differences must be preserved—according to ethnopluralism—on the basis of an equal and shared right that all ethnicities supposedly have, that I would call 'right to exist'. This is egalitarianism, to affirm that every group have basic, natural and shared rights implies that they're all equal essentially (because rights aren't naturally given but are created out of a purpose and a motive justified by greater aims; rights are means, not foundations), and that they all have the requirements to have a place in the concert of the nations, just because they exist and present their unique features. Groups have their own way to determine their right to exist basing themselves on the goals that they have historically achieved for the survival of their people, not because they happen to hold differences with other groups. Furthermore, this would be achieved under "coexistence" and the collaboration of every ethnicity, a view that I would deem as utopian considering the nature of the national struggle of any people, which is not one of independence and autonomy only, but expansion and survival in hostile environments.

Zordennox wrote:Conquering other ethnicities is not a requirement for maintaining a civilization. The success or failure of civilizations has to do with the spiritual and social conditions in that civilization, not what others have to win or lose.

History says other thing though. I think it's a widely accepted fact that the civilizational progress of a people has as a consequence, the expansion of their culture over inferior orders (as the Jerarca said), among other things. As such, the benefits obtained by conquest are incentives for the flourishing civilization to keep growing and advancing. A prolonged status quo means death and recession.

Zordennox wrote:

Again, conquering other ethnicities does not create a sphere of sovereignty or national consciousness for any civilization. I would argue, that would divide a civilization: with lethal consequences. When you conquer a foreign people, they become your problem. The British Empire conquered many ethnicities throughout the world, and now they are having a reverse affect backfire.

Many of the ethnicities 'conquered' by the british weren't properly assimilated even, most of them were used just as cheap workers (read: slaves) for their industries, they were not given a place in the British culture, as it could have happened with several ethnicities under the Roman Empire. The truth is that even the differences between groups manifest in unique "styles" of conquering, and a style could leave its mark in history, or not. The Roman Empire conquered ethnicities and used them as building blocks for the progress of the Empire, and those ethnicities would stop being separate from the roman imperial consciousness

Umakia

New french etat wrote:And those differences must be preserved—according to ethnopluralism—on the basis of an equal and shared right that all ethnicities supposedly have, that I would call 'right to exist'. This is egalitarianism, to affirm that every group have basic, natural and shared rights implies that they're all equal essentially (because rights aren't naturally given but are created out of a purpose and a motive justified by greater aims; rights are means, not foundations), and that they all have the requirements to have a place in the concert of the nations, just because they exist and present their unique features. Groups have their own way to determine their right to exist basing themselves on the goals that they have historically achieved for the survival of their people, not because they happen to hold differences with other groups. Furthermore, this would be achieved under "coexistence" and the collaboration of every ethnicity, a view that I would deem as utopian considering the nature of the national struggle of any people, which is not one of independence and autonomy only, but expansion and survival in hostile environments.

"Ethnopluralism rejects the universalist vision of all men being politically equal, which seems to violate the impartial moral principle of maximizing universal well-being; but it doesn’t.

The ethical premise of ethnopluralism holds that ethnocultural identity is vital for a person’s well-being. Humans have a deep need for belonging, so it’s best for everyone to protect the organic identities that fulfill that need. Thus, ethnopluralists have a right-wing hypothesis of how to maximize general well-being."

https://www.mindcoolness.com/blog/ethics-ethnopluralism/

The author of that quote does understand the basic concepts of ethnopluralism and how it is not an egalitarian doctrine, but they do not understand that ethnopluralism does not require being implemented on a universal scale for it to be fully realized. This is because ethnic groups have a national consciousness, whether that nation is physically autonomous or not; and that all ethnic groups are able to determine their future paths separately.

Here is what you said:

"Groups have their own way to determine their right to exist basing themselves on the goals that they have historically achieved for the survival of their people, not because they happen to hold differences with other groups."

While I agree with you that ethnic groups cannot in any way be equal, and that rights are means, not foundations; both of the points you mentioned here force ethnic groups to separate - not because they have the right to. Those things that you mentioned is what gives ethnicities the spiritual impulse to form a racial awareness, which I argued in a previous post.

Greetings,
This is Lady Morrighan. You guys should be able to remember that without this being a Morrighan nation right? I mean I am probably the only Arian Christian you have ever come by and I have Prussia in the name, plus my regional flag.

Krich aerd and Umakia

Arian prussia wrote:Greetings,
This is Lady Morrighan. You guys should be able to remember that without this being a Morrighan nation right? I mean I am probably the only Arian Christian you have ever come by and I have Prussia in the name, plus my regional flag.

Just let it go already smh, i already said sorry

Scandinavia-britania puppet, New french etat, Gran argreriana, and Umakia

Arian prussia wrote:Greetings,
This is Lady Morrighan. You guys should be able to remember that without this being a Morrighan nation right? I mean I am probably the only Arian Christian you have ever come by and I have Prussia in the name, plus my regional flag.

Krich aerd wrote:Just let it go already smh, i already said sorry

We are not starting this feud up again. It is time to rebuild.

Scandinavia-britania puppet, Krich aerd, New french etat, and Nuevo hispanyo

Zordennox wrote:Sure, give me a topic and I will gladly write a column.

First other settlements need to be made. But I'm informing all citizens and foreign contacts that they are invited to participate when the media syndicate is re-established. Just to be made aware.

Scandinavia-britania puppet, Krich aerd, and New french etat

To commemorate our dear, departed comrade Integralist Canada, I have made the two issues of Il Popolo della Confederazione, written largely by him, available within a pinned index.

And also to stir up curiosity for the eventual publication of the third issue.

Krich aerd and New french etat

Gentlemen, my phone has been stolen by be the rowdy scum of society, this means i will only be able to use NS at night and will only be available on discord in the morning, to those that have my personal phone number, please do not call me for the next few days

New french etat

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This is a J o Jian puppet here to assist in cure research for Z-Day8. It will return to its puppet storage after the event, or when all infected are cured.

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