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Meghalay wrote:I'm still getting over it. A PM of a secular state inaugurating a place of worship.

Pray we get back to our values before this gets worse.

Hopefully but I am not optimistic anymore about it.

Anarchic republic of india

Hindu mahasabha wrote:Just a discussion. If Owaisi can wear a skull cap, which symbolizes his religion, inside the Parliament then how come Indian PM can't participate in the Bhoomi Poojan?

Also, PM Modi participated in similar events of Mosque and Church as well.

There has been a history where congress held official Iftar parties in their offices and residences.

Further, Secularism means respecting all religions. Modi is respecting hinduism. So how come he violates Secularism policy?

Last point, Indian Secularism does not separates state from religion.

I agree that Indian secularism is different from the usual but an incumbent head of the country must not associate themselves with any religious event, especially one with a bloody history. With power comes responsibility and if the PM of the largest democracy doesn't understand that then they are unfit to sit in that chair.

Meghalay and Anarchic republic of india

Kalpi wrote:Kahi Poojan hai to Kahi soojan hai XD XD

*Burnol ran out of stock*

Oh wow, such wit. Good one. I hope you feel good about your totally original joke that I hadn't heard before.

Meghalay and Anarchic republic of india

Indian soviet wrote:It's not a big matter...Modi had attended Ayodhya as a citizen not as a Prime Minister of India although...

That's a silly excuse. He has a responsibility as the PM and his actions has consequences. A public servant of that stature unfortunately has no option of being a private citizen during their time in high office.
For example, if a minister was convicted of sexual abuse and he said that he did it in his capacity as a private citizen and not as a government official, should he continue to be in office? Shouldn't he be sacked?

Anarchic republic of india

Hindu mahasabha wrote:Just a discussion. If Owaisi can wear a skull cap, which symbolizes his religion, inside the Parliament then how come Indian PM can't participate in the Bhoomi Poojan?

Also, PM Modi participated in similar events of Mosque and Church as well.

There has been a history where congress held official Iftar parties in their offices and residences.

Further, Secularism means respecting all religions. Modi is respecting hinduism. So how come he violates Secularism policy?

Last point, Indian Secularism does not separates state from religion.

Thats actually true and NOT true.

Hindu mahasabha

Ophweria wrote:I agree that Indian secularism is different from the usual but an incumbent head of the country must not associate themselves with any religious event, especially one with a bloody history. With power comes responsibility and if the PM of the largest democracy doesn't understand that then they are unfit to sit in that chair.

That is your point of view, everyone has different point of view.

Congress Presidents and Prime Minsiters visited their own places of faith when in power, so it's a common thing in Indian politics, plus as said PM Modi has attended Mosques and Church as well.

Indian soviet

Indian soviet

Ophweria wrote:That's a silly excuse. He has a responsibility as the PM and his actions has consequences. A public servant of that stature unfortunately has no option of being a private citizen during their time in high office.
For example, if a minister was convicted of sexual abuse and he said that he did it in his capacity as a private citizen and not as a government official, should he continue to be in office? Shouldn't he be sacked?

In 2012 when PM Manmohan Singh had attended Iftar in Mosque there was no mouning of secularism,BUT when PM Modi attended Bhoomi Pooja there is a huge mouning of secularism??
I want a reason just as a citizen not as a supporter of Modi..
Why no secularism mouning for PM Manmohan Singh???

Hindu mahasabha

Indian soviet wrote:In 2012 when PM Manmohan Singh had attended Iftar in Mosque there was no mouning of secularism,BUT when PM Modi attended Bhoomi Pooja there is a huge mouning of secularism??
I want a reason just as a citizen not as a supporter of Modi..
Why no secularism mouning for PM Manmohan Singh???


PM Singh did not pursue many discriminatory policies. Modi has pursued discriminatory policies eg CAA etc. Furthermore members of his cabinet have insulted certain races eg Home Minister Amit Shah has called certain groups 'pests'. Moreover, the BJP and allies (RSS, etc) destroyed a mosque to build a temple. The INC did not destroy a temple to build a mosque.

Ophweria

Nordviska wrote:PM Singh did not pursue many discriminatory policies. Modi has pursued discriminatory policies eg CAA etc. Furthermore members of his cabinet have insulted certain races eg Home Minister Amit Shah has called certain groups 'pests'. Moreover, the BJP and allies (RSS, etc) destroyed a mosque to build a temple. The INC did not destroy a temple to build a mosque.

For your information CAA is not an discriminatory policies...
CAA is an policy which allows the minorities from different countries to reside in India.
And my question is Why there no mouning of secularism when PM Manmohan Singh went to a mosque for Iftar in 2012 when he was still pm??

Hindu mahasabha and South konkan

Indian soviet wrote:For your information CAA is not an discriminatory policies...
CAA is an policy which allows the minorities from different countries to reside in India.
And my question is Why there no mouning of secularism when PM Manmohan Singh went to a mosque for Iftar in 2012 when he was still pm??

CAA allows everyone except Muslim minorities from SAARC countries to easily obtain citizenship. If such an explicit policy is not discrimination to you, then please state your view of what is discrimination?

Ophweria

Hindu mahasabha wrote:That is your point of view, everyone has different point of view.

Congress Presidents and Prime Minsiters visited their own places of faith when in power, so it's a common thing in Indian politics, plus as said PM Modi has attended Mosques and Church as well.

The thing is Modi is Only for Hindus and NOT christains, muslisms, or any other thing. Which I really dislike him for that.

Indusse and Ophweria

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Next set of Dassault Rafael Fighter jets expected to come in October or November..

Indusse, Hindu mahasabha, Rihaam, and South konkan

Indian soviet

Nordviska wrote:CAA allows everyone except Muslim minorities from SAARC countries to easily obtain citizenship. If such an explicit policy is not discrimination to you, then please state your view of what is discrimination?

The thing is there are more countries having Muslim majorities...but India is the only nation for Hindus , Chrianity,Shikh,and other religions where they will be given right to live in South Asia.
For Muslims there are more than 20 nation who believe that Islamic is their National Religion.That is why they are not give recommendations in CAA.

South konkan

Hindu mahasabha wrote:That is your point of view, everyone has different point of view.

Congress Presidents and Prime Minsiters visited their own places of faith when in power, so it's a common thing in Indian politics, plus as said PM Modi has attended Mosques and Church as well.

Flat earth theory is also a different point of view. That doesn't make it true.

Indian soviet wrote:In 2012 when PM Manmohan Singh had attended Iftar in Mosque there was no mouning of secularism,BUT when PM Modi attended Bhoomi Pooja there is a huge mouning of secularism??
I want a reason just as a citizen not as a supporter of Modi..
Why no secularism mouning for PM Manmohan Singh???

Who said there wasn't? Please don't mistake anti-BJP and anti-RSS stances as pro-INC. UPA's government wasn't without its fair share of problems but they aren't the ones in power now. If your defence of the present government's actions is "what about what happened 50 years ago?" you're trying to duck responsibility. Are you seriously suggesting that BJP can do wrong things now just because INC did it when they were in power?

Ophweria wrote:Who said there wasn't? Please don't mistake anti-BJP and anti-RSS stances as pro-INC. UPA's government wasn't without its fair share of problems but they aren't the ones in power now. If your defence of the present government's actions is "what about what happened 50 years ago?" you're trying to duck responsibility. Are you seriously suggesting that BJP can do wrong things now just because INC did it when they were in power?

No.. I said it because it was a matter of fact to be viewed...

Indian soviet wrote:The thing is there are more countries having Muslim majorities...but India is the only nation for Hindus , Chrianity,Shikh,and other religions where they will be given right to live in South Asia.
For Muslims there are more than 20 nation who believe that Islamic is their National Religion.That is why they are not give recommendations in CAA.

So what if there are more Muslim majority countries? The whole world can be Muslim and India will and should still be a secular nation that doesn't discriminate on religious basis. You see them as Muslims alone. I'm asking you to also see them as fellow Indians who grew up with us in the same country, in the same neighbourhood, sharing similar values and interests. Don't try to alienate Indian Muslims because of their religion.

Hindu mahasabha

Nordviska wrote:CAA allows everyone except Muslim minorities from SAARC countries to easily obtain citizenship. If such an explicit policy is not discrimination to you, then please state your view of what is discrimination?

Where is it written Muslims can't get Citizenship?

Hindu mahasabha

Ophweria wrote:Flat earth theory is also a different point of view. That doesn't make it true.

But I have supported my point of view with facts, unlike you.

Hindu mahasabha

Bharat india wrote:The thing is Modi is Only for Hindus and NOT christains, muslisms, or any other thing. Which I really dislike him for that.

A silly & illogical excuse.

South konkan

Hindu mahasabha

Ophweria wrote:So what if there are more Muslim majority countries? The whole world can be Muslim and India will and should still be a secular nation that doesn't discriminate on religious basis. You see them as Muslims alone. I'm asking you to also see them as fellow Indians who grew up with us in the same country, in the same neighbourhood, sharing similar values and interests. Don't try to alienate Indian Muslims because of their religion.

Even muslims can get Citizenship in India. CAA is especially for those who are discriminated on religious basis.

South konkan and Alternate Indraprasth

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Hindu mahasabha wrote:But I have supported my point of view with facts, unlike you.

... are you saying that there is no proof of Modi visiting the Ram mandir? Because I think there is ample proof of that available online.

Hindu mahasabha

Ophweria wrote:... are you saying that there is no proof of Modi visiting the Ram mandir? Because I think there is ample proof of that available online.

I am saying this is no new trend in Indian Politics.

1. PM Modi attended Mosque and Church as well.

2. Ex-PM and Presidents also did the same for their own faith.

3. First ask Owaisi to not to wear skull cap, a religious symbol, inside Parliament, if you truly respect Secularism.

4. Secularism means respecting all religions. So the Prime Minsiter has respected a religion which is followed by 80% of the people, how is this violation of Secularism?

Now where are your facts?

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