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Wabacha wrote:Oh I getcha. Though it's nice to know that if you ever get too confused with what I blabber on about making TW factions you have the game to look at the stats and stuff.

Very presumptuous of you to think I know how to check that XD

Synnadine wrote:Very presumptuous of you to think I know how to check that XD

True, you don't have any experience with it. When I get a minute today I'll type out a glossary.

Wabacha wrote:True, you don't have any experience with it. When I get a minute today I'll type out a glossary.

I could always just ask my friend who convinced me to buy it, who has like 1000 hours in it and knows it inside and out :P

I just don't feel like it cause I don't like RTS :P

OOC: Okay, so fun facts about my work. One manager just put in his two weeks and quit three days in because he decided screw it, my new job pays me better and I'm not working two jobs for two weeks when I'm leaving here anyways. Another person just quit because he was really only working there because he was friends with the previously mentioned manager. One person just get fired because he starts too much drama with other employees over nothing, culminating in another employee literally storming into work yesterday ready to beat him up. Fortunately the trouble starter wasn't there but, after myself and my boss asking for the whole picture including screenshots of their facebook conversation that led up to all this, the troublemaker is getting fired and the one who wanted to beat him up is quitting before he can be fired for bringing it into work how he did.

Not to mention that, as far as I'm aware, we have three other people also intending to leave because they really only worked there on account of being friends with the manager who quit. They will now be looking for new jobs and almost certainly leaving as soon as they get them. Long story short- We have a lot of holes and not enough people to fill them, which means some people (like me) are about to start basically living there to cover the gaps for who knows how long.

Synnadine wrote:OOC: Okay, so fun facts about my work. One manager just put in his two weeks and quit three days in because he decided screw it, my new job pays me better and I'm not working two jobs for two weeks when I'm leaving here anyways. Another person just quit because he was really only working there because he was friends with the previously mentioned manager. One person just get fired because he starts too much drama with other employees over nothing, culminating in another employee literally storming into work yesterday ready to beat him up. Fortunately the trouble starter wasn't there but, after myself and my boss asking for the whole picture including screenshots of their facebook conversation that led up to all this, the troublemaker is getting fired and the one who wanted to beat him up is quitting before he can be fired for bringing it into work how he did.

Not to mention that, as far as I'm aware, we have three other people also intending to leave because they really only worked there on account of being friends with the manager who quit. They will now be looking for new jobs and almost certainly leaving as soon as they get them. Long story short- We have a lot of holes and not enough people to fill them, which means some people (like me) are about to start basically living there to cover the gaps for who knows how long.

Why aren't they pulling extra people from other stores? Or was Ray's situation something different.

Wabacha wrote:Why aren't they pulling extra people from other stores? Or was Ray's situation something different.

Well, because all that is news as of this morning. And Ray was already pulling people from three stores couting ours, those people being the trouble maker and the one reading to go to jail beating him. So now he's gonna have to try and pul more people. Basically everyone willing to work other stores are already working for him. I'd be surprised if we are able to get anyone.

Synnadine wrote:Well, because all that is news as of this morning. And Ray was already pulling people from three stores couting ours, those people being the trouble maker and the one reading to go to jail beating him. So now he's gonna have to try and pul more people. Basically everyone willing to work other stores are already working for him. I'd be surprised if we are able to get anyone.

What a greedy guts.

Wabacha wrote:When U4 Gilganax hears Lewis' brother fighting in a different dimension: https://i.imgur.com/6D4up9H.jpg

Cross and Duncan when Enkara come out of nowhere ready to collect them both during their fight: https://imgur.com/OYFXlU4

Synnadine wrote:Well, it's only "Paradise" in terms of the afterlife those experience there. When you get into the hierarchy, they have been at non-stop war since the first Gods were even spawned. Angels were literally created to be soldiers against Perdition. Each God has their own army and their own plane of Paradise, i.e their own country if we were to try and make comparisons to more real world understanding. Each God/Country having its own army they can just kinda pop out at will. Getting Gods within the same domain to agree is easier, but with varying personalities even that isn't always so simple. Besides that there are exactly two things Paradise as a whole would need to come together to agree on for: One, deciding on a Risen God which to be fair isn't really an official thing in the first place. It's just that one can only be considered a Risen God if Paradise as a whole decides the mortal in question is effectively a Godly being. Meaning the Gods have to agree. Two, a collective smite of screw you. All the Gods and angels could unite their power to perform a collective "you die now" smite that would rock even an S4's world. Wouldn't kill an S4, but they'd be hurtin' good. Anything less than S4 would be 10 levels of boned.

Other than that, Gods don't interact with other Gods on a mass scale. No need to, they're all doing their own thing. For the most part they will really only interact with the other Gods in their pantheon. Of course there are exceptions, Gods have lives too. They are allowed to have friends outside their Pantheons! XD

Well that does give me something to think about on where my other god stands on this. And fair enough on the collective smite route, sounds like a pain to deal with. And I now have the image in my head that Risen Gods are the divine equivalent of fanfictions, nothing official and will barely be respected unless it is liked by enough of them.

ZOCOM wrote:Cross and Duncan when Enkara come out of nowhere ready to collect them both during their fight: https://imgur.com/OYFXlU4

Well that does give me something to think about on where my other god stands on this. And fair enough on the collective smite route, sounds like a pain to deal with. And I now have the image in my head that Risen Gods are the divine equivalent of fanfictions, nothing official and will barely be respected unless it is liked by enough of them.

Well the thing is, Risen Gods are often more powerful than actual Gods. By the time they actually become recognized as a Risen God anyways. Very few have ever existed. They would at the least be in the top range of S3, and very likely be more like a 3.25. Not a reality breaker like S4, but too powerful in comparison to their peers to be confined into the limits of standard S3's. Which is another reason as to why they are so rare. S-Class by itself is actually very hard to reach, let alone S3.

Fact is, Risen Gods would actually be very respected by the Gods. Otherwise they wouldn't be recognized by such a title. Plus there's a bit more to it than just a "meaningless title". But Putnam and I haven't talked about it in a long time, I don't have it written out, and I don't want to talk out of my butt on the matter. I may be miss-recalling details entirely. In summary of the details that I can't be quoted on because I can't recall their accuracy, we live in a world of magic. Sometimes magic makes things happen simply because you believe it to be so. If an entire realm of existence that is in and of itself not only sentient but also full of Gods, who by majority determine you are effectively a God yourself...would it be unreasonable to believe that SOMETHING may change in you?

ZOCOM wrote:Cross and Duncan when Enkara come out of nowhere ready to collect them both during their fight: https://imgur.com/OYFXlU4

Well that does give me something to think about on where my other god stands on this. And fair enough on the collective smite route, sounds like a pain to deal with. And I now have the image in my head that Risen Gods are the divine equivalent of fanfictions, nothing official and will barely be respected unless it is liked by enough of them.

Synnadine wrote:Well the thing is, Risen Gods are often more powerful than actual Gods. By the time they actually become recognized as a Risen God anyways. Very few have ever existed. They would at the least be in the top range of S3, and very likely be more like a 3.25. Not a reality breaker like S4, but too powerful in comparison to their peers to be confined into the limits of standard S3's. Which is another reason as to why they are so rare. S-Class by itself is actually very hard to reach, let alone S3.

Fact is, Risen Gods would actually be very respected by the Gods. Otherwise they wouldn't be recognized by such a title. Plus there's a bit more to it than just a "meaningless title". But Putnam and I haven't talked about it in a long time, I don't have it written out, and I don't want to talk out of my butt on the matter. I may be miss-recalling details entirely. In summary of the details that I can't be quoted on because I can't recall their accuracy, we live in a world of magic. Sometimes magic makes things happen simply because you believe it to be so. If an entire realm of existence that is in and of itself not only sentient but also full of Gods, who by majority determine you are effectively a God yourself...would it be unreasonable to believe that SOMETHING may change in you?

Risen gods are very official. As Nurse said they are beings of incredible power, which tend to Rise through three different ways. 1- The gods admire you so much that they offer to raise you to godhood, a gift and praise equaled by very little in all of Immensus. 2- The gods as a whole fear you so much that they offer to give you godhood in hopes of appeasing you and not having to fight you. Honestly the most common way to achieve Enochian godhood, and how the first Risen God came to be. Or 3- Paradise itself chose you and raised you to godhood for being a paragon for what it stands for in its endless war against Perdition. Let that sink in. Paradise, the tattered remains of a cosmic level being created out mankind's collective hearts and souls by the original dragons believes in you. To fight in its endless war but still. Funny enough this is more common than the gods as a whole granting you godhood out of respect. Paradise also doesn't care what you are, as it has risen angels, humans, whatever. This is also the only type of Risen god that isn't guaranteed to be stronger than normal gods, since it selects potential gods from their soul, not their power.

Synnadine wrote:Well the thing is, Risen Gods are often more powerful than actual Gods. By the time they actually become recognized as a Risen God anyways. Very few have ever existed. They would at the least be in the top range of S3, and very likely be more like a 3.25. Not a reality breaker like S4, but too powerful in comparison to their peers to be confined into the limits of standard S3's. Which is another reason as to why they are so rare. S-Class by itself is actually very hard to reach, let alone S3.

Fact is, Risen Gods would actually be very respected by the Gods. Otherwise they wouldn't be recognized by such a title. Plus there's a bit more to it than just a "meaningless title". But Putnam and I haven't talked about it in a long time, I don't have it written out, and I don't want to talk out of my butt on the matter. I may be miss-recalling details entirely. In summary of the details that I can't be quoted on because I can't recall their accuracy, we live in a world of magic. Sometimes magic makes things happen simply because you believe it to be so. If an entire realm of existence that is in and of itself not only sentient but also full of Gods, who by majority determine you are effectively a God yourself...would it be unreasonable to believe that SOMETHING may change in you?

Wabacha wrote:Risen gods are very official. As Nurse said they are beings of incredible power, which tend to Rise through three different ways. 1- The gods admire you so much that they offer to raise you to godhood, a gift and praise equaled by very little in all of Immensus. 2- The gods as a whole fear you so much that they offer to give you godhood in hopes of appeasing you and not having to fight you. Honestly the most common way to achieve Enochian godhood, and how the first Risen God came to be. Or 3- Paradise itself chose you and raised you to godhood for being a paragon for what it stands for in its endless war against Perdition. Let that sink in. Paradise, the tattered remains of a cosmic level being created out mankind's collective hearts and souls by the original dragons believes in you. To fight in its endless war but still. Funny enough this is more common than the gods as a whole granting you godhood out of respect. Paradise also doesn't care what you are, as it has risen angels, humans, whatever. This is also the only type of Risen god that isn't guaranteed to be stronger than normal gods, since it selects potential gods from their soul, not their power.

So if I'm getting this right, if enough Gods believe that you have become a Risen God then you will become one regardless of what you were prior to ascending? I guess it wouldn't be too unreasonable if something like that were to happen. Though I'm guessing n that situation you'll end up making enemies even if you ascend, nt only all of demon kind but no doubt mortals that don't exactly like that you've become a god.

Edit: And 3 ways to become a god huh... That's pretty dope. Especially the last one seeing as the collective humanity forged together by the dragons has you ascend cause it believed that you can help fight in it's endless war. Pretty cool.

Though this all wildly got offtrack from the original post, and likely not possible for Duncan since his soul isn't a natural thing. None of the zoconian's are. Seeing as they were all created by a being of Old Magic and once ruled by a humanoid entity that was born in the grave. This would be like the Gods raising an AI to be a god essentially. Unless that can happen and I'm just unaware of such a development

ZOCOM wrote:

Though this all wildly got offtrack from the original post, and likely not possible for Duncan since his soul isn't a natural thing. None of the zoconian's are. Seeing as they were all created by a being of Old Magic and once ruled by a humanoid entity that was born in the grave. This would be like the Gods raising an AI to be a god essentially. Unless that can happen and I'm just unaware of such a development

As if gods care lol.

Wabacha wrote:As if gods care lol.

Paradise giving Duncan the title of Risen god after being literally too angry to die and beating up Salem: https://imgur.com/8mJ9qF0

ZOCOM wrote:Paradise giving Duncan the title of Risen god after being literally too angry to die and beating up Salem: https://imgur.com/8mJ9qF0

Duncan when he learns he has a new full time job of fighting demons in Perdition: https://i.imgur.com/OIENksr.jpg

Wabacha wrote:Duncan when he learns he has a new full time job of fighting demons in Perdition: https://i.imgur.com/OIENksr.jpg

This is basically just his old job with extra steps and control over a domain.

Speaking of, what would they even make him a god of? Stubbornness? Perhaps just to really make him angry they make him the God of revenge

Aeritai wrote:With Demigra defeated Future Saph's fusion time ran out due to the amount of power their SSJ4G transformation drained. With the two of them now unfused Future Sabi couldn't help, but form a smile on her face as she looked up at the sky.

"We did it mom... We beat Demigra and his minions this timeline's future is now secured." Future Sabi said.

Aylokin's fusion time also ran out with Aylote going down on one knee almost speechless that his mother gave her life away. Erkin seeing his friend in this state walks over to him to pat him on the back.

"You do understand why your mother did what she....Right?" Erkin asked.

"Yes, I understand I just wish I got to talk to her once again." Aylote said.

"I'm sure your mother felt the same way Aylote, but even then she saw the danger Demigra posed to Earth and the entire universe." Erkin said.

"And I'm going to be honest with you, no other Saiyan parent back on Planet Vegeta would this kinda of thing. She was a pure hearted Saiyan much like Bardock when he fought Frieza."

OOC: Sorry this took so long to do

BIC: PLacing their dad up against a bolder before their fusion timed out, Saph just smiled before the pair defused back to their normal selves. Dyph just landing flat on his back to look up into the sky with a smile on his face, while Flaz just took to laboured breathes as he looked around to everyone that survived. Glad that they were able to save the world and that the people that died along the way were avenged... Their deaths mattered in the long run.

As he got his breathing under control and gathered some of his energy back, he got onto his feet and rested a hand on Aylote's shoulder "You got that pure heart of hers. That's for damn sure."

ZOCOM wrote:This is basically just his old job with extra steps and control over a domain.

Speaking of, what would they even make him a god of? Stubbornness? Perhaps just to really make him angry they make him the God of revenge

I was just going with the memeing, Duncan could never become a risen god just by beating up Salem. He also would just be given a realm of control, it wouldn't have to be related to anything he does.

OOC: Like I said, haven't talked about it in a while. I couldn't remember details. I recalled that Risen God used to be unofficial, but forgot that it became an official thing.

ZOCOM wrote:OOC: Sorry this took so long to do

BIC: PLacing their dad up against a bolder before their fusion timed out, Saph just smiled before the pair defused back to their normal selves. Dyph just landing flat on his back to look up into the sky with a smile on his face, while Flaz just took to laboured breathes as he looked around to everyone that survived. Glad that they were able to save the world and that the people that died along the way were avenged... Their deaths mattered in the long run.

As he got his breathing under control and gathered some of his energy back, he got onto his feet and rested a hand on Aylote's shoulder "You got that pure heart of hers. That's for damn sure."

Aylote smiled as both Flaz and Erkin told him of his pure heart knowing he will continue her legacy by fighting to protect the Earth and someday the universe.

The Next Day
Outside Jane's Lab
After defeating Demigra it was time for the Future Duo to return back to their timeline and defeat their Demigra. But before they did leave they went to say goodbye to their present day family.

"Why do you have to go so soon?" Kid Sabi asked her future self with a sad expression on her face.

"So I can beat the Demigra back in our timeline and bring peace there." Future Sabi said as she rubbed her kid's self hair making it spiky.

"Well can you at least say hi to Future Mom for me?" Kid Sabi asked.

"Of course I will." Future Sabi said laughing a bit as she hugged the kid version of herself before letting go of her and standing up to walk over to Kali, Aylote, and Jane.

"Well it was nice meeting you guys, wish I could stay here longer but-"

"Hold on! You still haven't taught me how to go Super Saiyan 4 yet." Kali said crossing her arms.

"Heh figured you would say something like that, which why I brought this." Future Sabi said putting her hand in her pocket and giving it to Kali.

"Here take this its a blue print for a blutz wave machine this will help you get to your Super Saiyan 4 transformation. Word of advice be sure to wear some type of armor you don't want to ruin a good shirt once you transform." Future Sabi said.

"Noted!" Kali said excited that she'll get a chance to earn transformation that has more power than Super Saiyan 3.

"Well guess that means I have to build it." Jane said chuckling a bit.

"Hey, as long as its for the protection of Earth anything that can help us become stronger we'll need it!" Aylote said also excited to attain this new transformation.

"Yeah I guess, I better get a dinner date out of this." Jane said crossing her arms.

Future Sabi laughed a little at the old couple as she walks over to Erkin and his soon to be human wife named Coco and told them goodbye. Finally Future Sabi went over to Flaz as she smiled at him.

"It was good to see you old man I'm glad we got to have some type of family bonding." Future Sabi said as she held out her hand for a handshake.

A deep and misterious voice starts talking from nowhere...

"Ave Illuminatus and greetings fellow comrades. We have a new and very interesting poll in The Illuminati! We encourage you to participate in it, and remember to talk to us in our RMB, it is incredibly fun!"

-The Monarch
Marquisal

\\2 week timeskip: During the rematch//

The shadow forest, once more the epicentre for massive unrest amongst the immortal, vampire and were-folk populous as they are reminded yet again that a bigger threat looms in that ivory tower at the north eastern fringe, though now they were all having to endure close call after close call as the fight was dragging on, and feeling the godling come close to nuking the whole sector nearly three times now.

Though there was one person who was just letting it go... Myself, tucked away far to the south west of the forest just watching the lightshow from atop the willow tree on my estate, scratching my head wondering for how long this will go on as I use the yet to be severed Life Web link I have to Duncan to watch the fight through his eyes. The link likely hasn't gone unnoticed, but more so overlooked since I'm only using it to watch was going on. Taking time away from it all to flip through my phone to leave Piper texts that she can look at her leisure. Texts like:

[Another fight is breaking out between the templars and that kid they were hunting near the warrens. Though now that kid is like, a god or something. This forest keeps getting weirder.] Accompanied with several pics of myself with the lightshow in the background making funny faces to make it seem like less of a huge deal.

[If it starts getting too crazy I'm going to book it to Arcion after I evacuate the villages. For now it looks like it's well in hand. I can sense Samuel mason out that way along with some other powerful aura wizards so it shooould be okay. Fingers crossed.]

[If all goes well I think I'll come visit again on Saturday after I check up on that daughter of mine.] By this time I have spilled the beans on the recent developments with Fem-Cell to Piper, and how she seems to be warming up to the idea of actually being good instead of drinking people. [I haven't seen her in awhile. Not since before you and me got serious.]

The last time I saw her was 3 days ago after me and Weston had our friendly chat and me and Piper continued seeing each other. The weird eye thing that was in my head left too the other day without a trace, my eye grew back right after. Even my hair went back to it's usual dark brown colour. I can't say I'll miss it, I won't miss that uncomfortable wriggling it would do in my head. And all it did was give me some small amount of power. I'm glad it's out of me in all honesty... though despite how laid back I felt about my recent developments I was doing alot better all thanks to Piper. I felt tons stronger too, compared to my old strength I was surprised by the explosive improvements with my recent artificial gen boost. At the time I didn't notice it during those first three days, I adapted quickly as we went at each other. Though taking he time now to explore the new depths of my capabilities. I felt incredible.

"Hmm?" From the looks of it the fight was drawing to a close. I sever the Life Web link between Duncan and myself as I see that Vengeance was about to lose. "I'll leave them alone, looks like the fight is good as done anyways. Oh, better tell Piper that just incase she sees all that and worries." I talk aloud as I type [Looks like the fight is all done. The sector gets to stand another day. Can't wait to come see you again, xx] Smiling like an idiot, I hit send and pocket my phone again as I get down from the tree, scratching my chin as I start to focus on just what the fruit of my rage could be doing right now for me not to sense her.

"... With a fight with 2 S3's going on she could be hiding, not wanting to draw their attention... Eh no she might have come to me to hide. She was warming up to me being her dad so she might have taken the opportunity to see how I would react to this situation... Or I'm just crazy and wish she would be more daughter like with me." I sit down on the porch looking out towards the front gate past my garden, looking nowhere in particular and just throwing ideas around in my head as I rest my head in my hands "She's probably just run to ground after all the family stuff that happened. I'd be super intimidated too with all the strange crap that happened around here. I'm just super desensitised to it... Then again she can use Sector melting natures even I don't know... So she could very much clap my step-sisters crazy brother and dad... Not an unpleasant thought... Which reminds me. When I do find her I'll have to convince her to teach me those at some point. I'm sure that should be fine." My mind wonders on the nature of my daughter... Like why there aren't more like her. Aura wizards must have torn apart the landscape for thousands of years in their emotional fits. So how come there weren't many like her? If any at all... "The closest thing I can compare to Fem... Is that boy Tobbi's Ink spider.... But that thing lives as a part of him and only reacts when his sister goes missing, from what I've seen anyways... Fem Cell isn't like that though... Isn't she? Hmm... She does directly feel my anger... I had to really stress myself during the civil war so she didn't come to Zocom, or devour the denizens of the forest in feeling all my anger and pain."

I lose myself in thought about the nature of my daughter and just how she came to be. Directly born of my trauma and anger incubated in this forest instead of inside my body... Perhaps really Fem-Cell has existed within me far longer than she knows, and only got free to grow apart from me after my numerous painful episodes over the years. Perhaps she was even born back when I was first turned into a vampire. Lurking as a part of me until recently... How would have things have changed if she remained part of me, would I have become like Tobbi? Cell only awakening when my mind has no other choice but to rely on that ravenous hunger... Perhaps... She never really left me. And what I am trying to find right now is just an aspect of the greater trauma beast that still dwells in my body, waiting for the right boxes to be ticked so it can be unleashed. Much like the Ink spider...

I ruffle my hair and shake my head with all this thinking, likely thinking way too much into the nature of my connection to my daughter. "Okay pause pause... If that was the case I likely... Maybe... Probably would have gone off the rails and started drinking people ages ago, it would be crazy if I had no idea right...?" I say to myself while one of the passing skeleton guards just adds "Didn't that Tobbi kid have no idea he was wrecking that capital of theirs until he got told about it and saw for himself?"

My eyes just pan to the skeleton and just shoo him as I am now way more stressed that I could be passing out and drinking people without my knowing. But that was crazy.. I only have a few instances where I have passed out with no memory of what happened. "Oh that doesn't help me in the slightest. I am likely just overthinking things though! Hopefully... Maybe I should invest in some powerful golems or robots that can hold me down if I do get all 'people drinky'..." Not liking my current train of thought, I go about flicking through my phone looking for pictures of cats and funny videos to bring my mood back up from the worrying topics I forced upon myself yet again. All the while I send some skeleton guards to look for signs that my daughter has been active in the forest.

Wabacha wrote:I was just going with the memeing, Duncan could never become a risen god just by beating up Salem. He also would just be given a realm of control, it wouldn't have to be related to anything he does.

Synnadine wrote:OOC: Like I said, haven't talked about it in a while. I couldn't remember details. I recalled that Risen God used to be unofficial, but forgot that it became an official thing.

But I am not hearing that he can't become a risen god. I'll have to keep that little tidbit in mind for later consideration. As for now, that's all good. Though we strayed far from my original point. Though... Maybe we haven't. Perhaps a Risen God goes about training him in how to enjoy fighting again after they watched him beat up Salem and got the wet blanket to consider being a real god again. Some Jolly risen god that wanted to see what the kid was like without all the angst and resentment warping him

ZOCOM wrote:But I am not hearing that he can't become a risen god. I'll have to keep that little tidbit in mind for later consideration. As for now, that's all good. Though we strayed far from my original point. Though... Maybe we haven't. Perhaps a Risen God goes about training him in how to enjoy fighting again after they watched him beat up Salem and got the wet blanket to consider being a real god again. Some Jolly risen god that wanted to see what the kid was like without all the angst and resentment warping him

He's have to travel far out of Sector, beings like that (and the problem-causing Risen I've been working on) roam far away from here.

Wabacha wrote:He's have to travel far out of Sector, beings like that (and the problem-causing Risen I've been working on) roam far away from here.

Well won't Heinrich going to bugger off to the Tamriel sector at some point? If that dweeb can do it so can he

ZOCOM wrote:Well won't Heinrich going to bugger off to the Tamriel sector at some point? If that dweeb can do it so can he

I mean leave this area entirely. Like, dozens to hundreds of sectors away.

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