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The Federation of Krimera

Ionalands wrote:But what does that even mean?

Obviously we cannot ever ban people for having thoughts. But if you agree with me that expressing nazi viewpoints, is harassment, then where do we disagree.

As far as I'm concerned, there's no way for one to share their bigoted views and it not be harrassment against this region's minorities.

If people can keep their views within the rules, that should be fine. But nobody talks about all the perspectives of their belief. Meaning that some stuff don't even have to be said.

What I can compromise is the condemnation of racism, sexism, homophobia, and anti-Semitism on the region. Which should be all encompassing for any kind of belief.

Ebengar

Rilandse

Hunzali wrote:Who said you are a nazi? I am saying that we shouldn't allow it, not that "hey Rilandse your a nazi".

That quote is saying we dont approve of it, not saying we are not nazis, I say that earlier or later.

Cauva

Condaian

Ionalands wrote:Ok, let's not strawman people or try to make wild caricatures of their beliefs.

right right. Sorry. But still, your trying to suppress peoples views, without them truly harassing anyone. Thats wrong and immoral

Cauva

Hunzali

Cauva wrote:Then what sparked your "protest" against Nazism if there's no Nazis?

The image you posted. The stupid rock paper scissor image with the LITERAL NAZI SALUTE. I am not saying you are indeed a fact a nazi: what I am saying is that the image you posted has nazi connotations. Is that so hard to say? Cause I literally can't get it any simpler.

Apostate

Rilandse

If I ban Nazism, the following will also be banned on the Discord:

Racial supremacy
Communist imagery
Socialist imagery
Religous imagery
BLM imagery
Straight Pride imagery
LGBTQ+ Pride imagery

...and if I didn't cover everything that could offend someone, there will be a general rule of "offensive material."

Now, truthfully this doesn't seem like its a good idea, but I guess we need to make sure bigotry isn't allowed.

New Nationale Einheit, Scalesburg, Cauva, and Condaian

Cauva

Hunzali wrote:The image you posted. The stupid rock paper scissor image with the LITERAL NAZI SALUTE. I am not saying you are indeed a fact a nazi: what I am saying is that the image you posted has nazi connotations. Is that so hard to say? Cause I literally can't get it any simpler.

It has Nazi connotations, sure. Is it hurting anyone? No. Was it directed at anyone? No.

Condaian

The Armed Republic of Scalesburg

Rilandse wrote:If I ban Nazism, the following will also be banned on the Discord:

Racial supremacy
Communist imagery
Socialist imagery
Religous imagery
BLM imagery
Straight Pride imagery
LGBTQ+ Pride imagery

...and if I didn't cover everything that could offend someone, there will be a general rule of "offensive material."

Now, truthfully this doesn't seem like its a good idea, but I guess we need to make sure bigotry isn't allowed.

That's exactly what I'm saying-- it isn't a good idea because more people will "snowflake" for those other imageries.

Cauva and Condaian

Hunzali

Condaian wrote:right right. Sorry. But still, your trying to suppress peoples views, without them truly harassing anyone. Thats wrong and immoral

"Nazism is a form of fascism, with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and the use of eugenics into its creed."

I don't know man, nazism literally sounds like a ideology that hates a certain race of people and supports eugenics, which is generally associated with killing other peoples genetic traits and races for a "perfect society".

Rilandse

Hunzali wrote:"Nazism is a form of fascism, with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and the use of eugenics into its creed."

I don't know man, nazism literally sounds like a ideology that hates a certain race of people and supports eugenics, which is generally associated with killing other peoples genetic traits and races for a "perfect society".

WE ALL AGREE NAZIS ARE BIG BAD, BUT THE SLIPPERY SLOPE IS ALSO BAD.

Cauva

Cauva

Hunzali wrote:"Nazism is a form of fascism, with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and the use of eugenics into its creed."

I don't know man, nazism literally sounds like a ideology that hates a certain race of people and supports eugenics, which is generally associated with killing other peoples genetic traits and races for a "perfect society".

While less concrete lot of American pride contains anti-communist beliefs.

Condaian

Condaian

Hunzali wrote:"Nazism is a form of fascism, with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and the use of eugenics into its creed."
I don't know man, nazism literally sounds like a ideology that hates a certain race of people and supports eugenics, which is generally associated with killing other peoples genetic traits and races for a "perfect society".

Fine. We ban nazism then your socialist views, whcih the nazis did share, have to go too

Cauva

Ionalands

Rilandse wrote:If I ban Nazism, the following will also be banned on the Discord:

Racial supremacy
Communist imagery
Socialist imagery
Religous imagery
BLM imagery
Straight Pride imagery
LGBTQ+ Pride imagery

...and if I didn't cover everything that could offend someone, there will be a general rule of "offensive material."

Now, truthfully this doesn't seem like its a good idea, but I guess we need to make sure bigotry isn't allowed.

If you think "LGBTQ pride"... or like anything below "socialist imagery" is on any sort of equal moral footing with literal nazism, that is absolutely absurd and ridiculous.

Get some f*cking common sense Rilandse. I wasn't offended until now. That is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I've heard from you.

Ebengar and Hunzali

Condaian

Your advocating that they cleanse all beliefs of any sort of superiority, no matter what. So say goodbye to any sort of discussions or free speech

New Nationale Einheit

Condaian

Ionalands wrote:If you think "LGBTQ pride"... or like anything below "socialist imagery" is on any sort of equal moral footing with literal nazism, that is absolutely absurd and ridiculous.

Get some f*cking common sense Rilandse. I wasn't offended until now. That is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I've heard from you.

No, he has a point. Queer stuff is punishable by death in most of the world, like nazism. So its gotta go

The Armed Republic of Scalesburg

Ionalands wrote:If you think "LGBTQ pride"... or like anything below "socialist imagery" is on any sort of equal moral footing with literal nazism, that is absolutely absurd and ridiculous.

Get some f*cking common sense Rilandse. I wasn't offended until now. That is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I've heard from you.

What if I said I felt offended that people take pride into being gay? I find it quite "hurtful" that they dare express their sexual orientations.

Does my feelings matter? I completely disagree with the idea of it. (I'm just making a point here)

Cauva and Condaian

Rilandse

Ionalands wrote:If you think "LGBTQ pride"... or like anything below "socialist imagery" is on any sort of equal moral footing with literal nazism, that is absolutely absurd and ridiculous.

Get some f*cking common sense Rilandse. I wasn't offended until now. That is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I've heard from you.

I don't believe they are on the same level, but they are topics that get people "fed up" or irritated. We need to make a safe space.

Good luck getting to cave to your demands until you denounce communism and socialism.

Condaian

Cauva

Scalesburg wrote:What if I said I felt offended that people take pride into being gay? I find it quite "hurtful" that they dare express their sexual orientations.

Does my feelings matter? I completely disagree with the idea of it. (I'm just making a point here)

Ah, you see, but that offends me that you feel offended. You've got to go now, bye bye.

Scalesburg and Condaian

The Federation of Krimera

Krimera wrote:What I can compromise is the condemnation of racism, sexism, homophobia, and anti-Semitism on the region. Which should be all encompassing for any kind of belief.

Hunzali better? That way people can't attempt to get around the problem.

Rilandse and Condaian

Hunzali

Krimera wrote:Hunzali better? That way people can't attempt to get around the problem.

Rilandse wrote:I don't believe they are on the same level, but they are topics that get people "fed up" or irritated. We need to make a safe space.

Good luck getting to cave to your demands until you denounce communism and socialism.

I'm getting conflicting messages on what you all want exactly and how much your willing to negotiate. If you make a formal list of what you'll denounce and such, I would be very willing to discuss it in a civil matter. But until then, I ain't budging.

Ionalands

Rilandse wrote:I don't believe they are on the same level, but they are topics that get people "fed up" or irritated. We need to make a safe space.

Good luck getting to cave to your demands until you denounce communism and socialism.

Dont be obtuse.

It is ok to be offended by people advocating for anyone's rights or life to be taken away. It is very stupid to pearl-clutch about people's sexuality, religion, or economic beliefs.

See the difference?

Ebengar and Hunzali

Ionalands

Condaian wrote:No, he has a point. Queer stuff is punishable by death in most of the world, like nazism. So its gotta go

What are you even talking about? None of that is true.

Condaian

Ionalands wrote:What are you even talking about? None of that is true.

Look at Mauritania. Being gay is punishable by death. So because they get offended by gays then gay stuff shouldnt be allowed by your damn logic.

Ionalands

Scalesburg wrote:What if I said I felt offended that people take pride into being gay? I find it quite "hurtful" that they dare express their sexual orientations.

Does my feelings matter? I completely disagree with the idea of it. (I'm just making a point here)

No you're feelings dont matter because that's stupid and ridiculous.

Cauva

Ionalands wrote:Dont be obtuse.

It is ok to be offended by people advocating for anyone's rights or life to be taken away. It is very stupid to pearl-clutch about people's sexuality, religion, or economic beliefs.

See the difference?

No, I don't see the difference. Both sides believe what they're doing is okay. If I see one side as being wrong, that's my opinion, not fact.

Condaian

Ionalands wrote:No you're feelings dont matter because that's stupid and ridiculous.

And to some yours are too. You just invalidated your own argument

Scalesburg

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